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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: Jay Rolette <rolette@infiniteio.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: DPDK <dev@dpdk.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 10:11:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56D80DED.8040909@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADNuJVr3hxSS4ctmvfb_EJSGuDj-0DFSemzp-2aejBjC9k7FYw@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/2/2016 10:18 PM, Jay Rolette wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Stephen Hemminger
> <stephen@networkplumber.org <mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:33:25 -0600
>     Jay Rolette <rolette@infiniteio.com <mailto:rolette@infiniteio.com>>
>     wrote:
> 
>     > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:06 AM, Thomas Monjalon
>     <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com <mailto:thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > > Hi,
>     > > I totally agree with Avi's comments.
>     > > This topic is really important for the future of DPDK.
>     > > So I think we must give some time to continue the discussion
>     > > and have netdev involved in the choices done.
>     > > As a consequence, these series should not be merged in the
>     release 16.04.
>     > > Thanks for continuing the work.
>     > >
>     >
>     > I know you guys are very interested in getting rid of the out-of-tree
>     > drivers, but please do not block incremental improvements to DPDK
>     in the
>     > meantime. Ferruh's patch improves the usability of KNI. Don't
>     throw out
>     > good and useful enhancements just because it isn't where you want
>     to be in
>     > the end.
>     >
>     > I'd like to see these be merged.
>     >
>     > Jay
> 
>     The code is really not ready. I am okay with cooperative development
>     but the current code needs to go into a staging type tree.
>     No compatibility, no ABI guarantees, more of an RFC.
>     Don't want vendors building products with it then screaming when it
>     gets rebuilt/reworked/scrapped.
> 
> 
> That's fair. To be clear, it wasn't my intent for code that wasn't baked
> yet to be merged. 
> 
> The main point of my comment was that I think it is important not to
> halt incremental improvements to existing capabilities (KNI in this
> case) just because there are philosophical or directional changes that
> the community would like to make longer-term.
> 
> Bird in the hand vs. two in the bush...
> 

There are two different statements, first, code being not ready, I agree
a fair point (although there is no argument to that statement, it makes
hard to discuss this, I will put aside this), this implies when code is
ready it can go in to repo.

But not having kernel module, independent from their state against what
they are trying to replace is something else. And this won't help on KNI
related problems.

Thanks,
ferruh

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-03 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1453911849-16562-1-git-send-email-ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
2016-01-27 16:24 ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-28  9:49   ` Remy Horton
2016-01-28 13:50     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-28 15:34   ` Avi Kivity
2016-02-28 20:16     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29  9:43       ` Avi Kivity
2016-02-29 10:43         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 10:58           ` Avi Kivity
2016-02-29 11:06             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-29 11:35               ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 15:05                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 15:19                 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-02-29 15:27                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-29 16:04                     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-02-29 14:33               ` Jay Rolette
2016-03-01 22:40                 ` Bruce Richardson
2016-03-02  2:02                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-02  8:27                   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-02 10:47                     ` Vincent JARDIN
2016-03-02 10:51                       ` Jim Thompson
2016-03-02 12:03                         ` Vincent JARDIN
2016-03-02 22:51                           ` Jim Thompson
2016-03-02 11:21                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-02 22:35                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-03  8:31                           ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-03 10:05                             ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-03 10:11                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-03 10:51                               ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-10  0:04                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-10  6:31                             ` Vincent JARDIN
2016-03-02 22:18                   ` Jay Rolette
2016-03-03 10:11                     ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2016-03-03 16:59                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-03 18:18                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 11:27             ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 11:39               ` Avi Kivity
2016-02-29 14:35                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 20:11   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-01  0:35     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-27 16:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/3] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-28 11:14   ` Remy Horton
2016-01-28 13:15     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-28 13:24       ` Jay Rolette
2016-01-28 13:56         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-28 13:57       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-01-28 14:22         ` Yigit, Ferruh
2016-01-27 16:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-12 13:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-12 13:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-12 13:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-17 19:58     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-02-18 10:43       ` Yigit, Ferruh
2016-02-12 13:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-17 19:39     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-02-18 10:11       ` Yigit, Ferruh
2016-02-26 14:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-26 14:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] lib/librte_ethtool: move librte_ethtool form examples to lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-26 14:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01  1:02       ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-01 15:53         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-26 14:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-26 14:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29  9:33     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Remy Horton
2016-03-01 15:41     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 15:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] lib/librte_ethtool: move librte_ethtool form examples to lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 15:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 23:06         ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-02 11:05           ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 23:09         ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-01 23:10         ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-02 11:06           ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 15:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 15:42       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] lib/librte_ethtool: move librte_ethtool form examples to lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 12:23           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-03-14 15:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-14 17:40           ` Jay Rolette
2016-03-15  0:00             ` Ferruh Yigit

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