From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga09.intel.com (mga09.intel.com [134.134.136.24]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9E52C61 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:13:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from fmsmga002.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.26]) by orsmga102.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2016 04:13:57 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,344,1455004800"; d="scan'208";a="938328499" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.252.20.119]) ([10.252.20.119]) by fmsmga002.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2016 04:13:55 -0700 To: Thomas Monjalon References: <1455858349-14639-1-git-send-email-ferruh.yigit@intel.com> <56E917AD.2060701@redhat.com> <56E934E5.4080905@intel.com> <2637434.UE2LQEG9YB@xps13> Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Panu Matilainen , David Marchand , Helin Zhang From: Ferruh Yigit Message-ID: <56E93FF2.8010501@intel.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:13:54 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2637434.UE2LQEG9YB@xps13> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] slow data path communication between DPDK port and Linux X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: patches and discussions about DPDK List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:13:59 -0000 On 3/16/2016 10:45 AM, Thomas Monjalon wrote: > 2016-03-16 10:26, Ferruh Yigit: >> On 3/16/2016 8:22 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: >>> On 03/16/2016 10:19 AM, Ferruh Yigit wrote: >>>> On 3/16/2016 7:26 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: >>>>> On 03/14/2016 05:32 PM, Ferruh Yigit wrote: >>>>>> On 3/9/2016 11:17 AM, Ferruh Yigit wrote: >>>>>>> This patch sent to keep record of latest status of the work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is slow data path communication implementation based on existing KNI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Difference is: librte_kni converted into a PMD, kdp kernel module is almost >>>>>>> same except all control path functionality removed and some simplification done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Motivation is to simplify slow path data communication. >>>>>>> Now any application can use this new PMD to send/get data to Linux kernel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PMD supports two communication methods: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) KDP kernel module >>>>>>> PMD initialization functions handles creating virtual interfaces (with help of >>>>>>> kdp kernel module) and created FIFO. FIFO is used to share data between >>>>>>> userspace and kernelspace. This is default method. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) tun/tap module >>>>>>> When KDP module is not inserted, PMD creates tap interface and transfers >>>>>>> packets using tap interface. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In long term this patch intends to replace the KNI and KNI will be >>>>>>> depreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Self-NACK: Will work on another option that does not introduce new >>>>>> kernel module. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hmm, care to elaborate a bit? The second mode of this PMD already was >>>>> free of external kernel modules. Do you mean you'll be just removing >>>>> mode 1) from the PMD or looking at something completely different? >>>>> >>>>> Just thinking that tun/tap PMD sounds like a useful thing to have, I >>>>> hope you're not abandoning that. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It will be KNI PMD. >>>> Plan is to have something like KDP, but with existing KNI kernel module. >>>> There will be tun/tap support as fallback. >>> >>> Hum, now I'm confused. I was under the impression everybody hated KNI >>> and wanted to get rid of it, and certainly not build future solutions on >>> top of it? >> >> We can't remove it. > > Why? > >> We can't replace/improve it -you were one of the major opposition to this. >> This doesn't leave more option other than using it. > > Why cannot we replace it by something upstream? > I doubt KDP is upstream-able to Linux community. If somebody can, that is great. Even for KCP, upstreaming task is still under discussion, and as a heads up, it is likely to be dropped. Regards, ferruh >> There won't be any update in KNI kernel module, library + sample app >> will be converted into PMD. > >