From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga03.intel.com (mga03.intel.com [134.134.136.65]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189CA2BA4 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 10:30:26 +0100 (CET) X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message) X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from orsmga005.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.41]) by orsmga103.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 16 Nov 2018 01:30:26 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.56,239,1539673200"; d="scan'208";a="274497573" Received: from fyigit-mobl.ger.corp.intel.com (HELO [10.237.221.79]) ([10.237.221.79]) by orsmga005.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2018 01:30:23 -0800 To: Ilya Maximets , "dev@dpdk.org" , Thomas Monjalon Cc: "ovs-dev@openvswitch.org" , Konstantin Ananyev , "Stokes, Ian" , Kevin Traynor , Ophir Munk , Shahaf Shuler , Eelco Chaudron References: <70d58383-da8b-4c15-a8c4-f6f853268486@samsung.com> From: Ferruh Yigit Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=ferruh.yigit@intel.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFXZCFABEADCujshBOAaqPZpwShdkzkyGpJ15lmxiSr3jVMqOtQS/sB3FYLT0/d3+bvy qbL9YnlbPyRvZfnP3pXiKwkRoR1RJwEo2BOf6hxdzTmLRtGtwWzI9MwrUPj6n/ldiD58VAGQ +iR1I/z9UBUN/ZMksElA2D7Jgg7vZ78iKwNnd+vLBD6I61kVrZ45Vjo3r+pPOByUBXOUlxp9 GWEKKIrJ4eogqkVNSixN16VYK7xR+5OUkBYUO+sE6etSxCr7BahMPKxH+XPlZZjKrxciaWQb +dElz3Ab4Opl+ZT/bK2huX+W+NJBEBVzjTkhjSTjcyRdxvS1gwWRuXqAml/sh+KQjPV1PPHF YK5LcqLkle+OKTCa82OvUb7cr+ALxATIZXQkgmn+zFT8UzSS3aiBBohg3BtbTIWy51jNlYdy ezUZ4UxKSsFuUTPt+JjHQBvF7WKbmNGS3fCid5Iag4tWOfZoqiCNzxApkVugltxoc6rG2TyX CmI2rP0mQ0GOsGXA3+3c1MCdQFzdIn/5tLBZyKy4F54UFo35eOX8/g7OaE+xrgY/4bZjpxC1 1pd66AAtKb3aNXpHvIfkVV6NYloo52H+FUE5ZDPNCGD0/btFGPWmWRmkPybzColTy7fmPaGz cBcEEqHK4T0aY4UJmE7Ylvg255Kz7s6wGZe6IR3N0cKNv++O7QARAQABzSVGZXJydWggWWln aXQgPGZlcnJ1aC55aWdpdEBpbnRlbC5jb20+wsGVBBMBAgA/AhsDBgsJCAcDAgYVCAIJCgsE FgIDAQIeAQIXgBYhBNI2U4dCLsKE45mBx/kz60PfE2EfBQJbughWBQkHwjOGAAoJEPkz60Pf E2Eft84QAIbKWqhgqRfoiw/BbXbA1+qm2o4UgkCRQ0yJgt9QsnbpOmPKydHH0ixCliNz1J8e mRXCkMini1bTpnzp7spOjQGLeAFkNFz6BMq8YF2mVWbGEDE9WgnAxZdi0eLY7ZQnHbE6AxKL SXmpe9INb6z3ztseFt7mqje/W/6DWYIMnH3Yz9KzxujFWDcq8UCAvPkxVQXLTMpauhFgYeEx Nub5HbvhxTfUkapLwRQsSd/HbywzqZ3s/bbYMjj5JO3tgMiM9g9HOjv1G2f1dQjHi5YQiTZl 1eIIqQ3pTic6ROaiZqNmQFXPsoOOFfXF8nN2zg8kl/sSdoXWHhama5hbwwtl1vdaygQYlmdK H2ueiFh/UvT3WG3waNv2eZiEbHV8Rk52Xyn2w1G90lV0fYC6Ket1Xjoch7kjwbx793Kz/RfQ rmBY8/S4DTGn3oq3dMdQY+b6+7VMUeLMMh2CXYO9ErkOq+qNTD1IY+cBAkXnaDbQfz0zbste ZGWH74FAZ9nCpDOqbRTrBL42aMGhfOWEyeA1x7+hl6JZfabBWAuf4nnCXuorKHzBXTrf7u7p fXsKQClWRW77PF1VmzrtKNVSytQAmlCWApQIw20AarFipXmVdIjHmJPU611WoyxZPb4JTOxx 5cv9B+nr/RIB+v5dcStyHCCwO1be7nBDdCgd4F6kTQPLzsFNBFfWTL4BEACnNA29e8TarUsB L5n6eLZHXcFvVwNLVlirWOClHXf44o2KnN3ww+eBEmKVfEFo9MSuGDNHS8Zw1NiGMYxLIUgd U6gGrVVs/VrQWL82pbMk6jCj98N+BXIri+6K1z+AImz7ax7iF1kDgRAnFWU0znWWBgM2mM8Y gDjcxfXk4sCKnvf6Gjo08Ey5zmqx7dekAKU2EEp8Q1EJY3jbymLdZWRP4AFFMTS1rGMk0/tt v71NBg1GobCcbNfn9chK/jhqxYhAJqq86RdJQkt3/9x1U1Oq0vXCt4JVVHmkxePtUiuWTTt+ aYlUAsKYZsWvncExvw77x2ArYDmaK0yfjh37wp0lY7DOJHFxoyT8tyWZlLci/VMRG2Ja33xj 0CN4C1yBg+QDeV3QFxQo42iA/ykdXPUR3ezmsND3XKvVLTC4DNb3V/EZQ7jBj64+bEK0VW4G B31VP00ApNQvSoczsIOAKdk97RNbpmPw6q10ILIB+9T1xbnFYzshzGF17oC0/GENIHATx8vZ masOZoDiOZQpeneLgnFE9JfzhLTxv6wNZcc/HLXRQVTkDsQr8ERtkAoHCf1E5+b5Yr7pfnE4 YuhET746o25S53ELUYPIs49qoJsEJL34/oexMfPGyPIlrbufiNyty5jc/1MRwUlhJlJ5IOHy ZUa+6CLR7GdImusFkPJUJwARAQABwsF8BBgBAgAmAhsMFiEE0jZTh0IuwoTjmYHH+TPrQ98T YR8FAlu6CHAFCQXE7zIACgkQ+TPrQ98TYR9nXxAAqNBgkYNyGuWUuy0GwDQCbu3iiMyH1+D7 llafPcK4NYy1Z4AYuVwC9nmLaoj+ozdqS3ncRo57ncRsKEJC46nDJJZYZ5LSJVn63Y3NBF86 lxQAgjj2oyZEwaLKtKbAFsXL43jv1pUGgSvWwYtDwHITXXFQto9rZEuUDRFSx4sg9OR+Q6/6 LY+nQQ3OdHlBkflzYMPcWgDcvcTAO6yasLEUf7UcYoSWTyMYjLB4QuNlXzTswzGVMssJF/vo V8lD1eqqaSUWG3STF6GVLQOr1NLvN5+kUBiEStHFxBpgSCvYY9sNV8FS6N24CAWMBl+10W+D 2h1yiiP5dOdPcBDYKsgqDD91/sP0WdyMJkwdQJtD49f9f+lYloxHnSAxMleOpyscg1pldw+i mPaUY1bmIknLhhkqfMmjywQOXpac5LRMibAAYkcB8v7y3kwELnt8mhqqZy6LUsqcWygNbH/W K3GGt5tRpeIXeJ25x8gg5EBQ0Jnvp/IbBYQfPLtXH0Myq2QuAhk/1q2yEIbVjS+7iowEZNyE 56K63WBJxsJPB2mvmLgn98GqB4G6GufP1ndS0XDti/2K0o8rep9xoY/JDGi0n0L0tk9BHyoP Y7kaEpu7UyY3nVdRLe5H1/MnFG8hdJ97WqnPS0buYZlrbTV0nRFL/NI2VABl18vEEXvNQiO+ vM8= Message-ID: <5bb61eff-3364-fb72-27d5-3aece424eee2@intel.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:30:23 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <70d58383-da8b-4c15-a8c4-f6f853268486@samsung.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Direct using of 'rte_eth_devices' in DPDK apps. X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:30:28 -0000 On 11/16/2018 8:42 AM, Ilya Maximets wrote: > Hi, > While discussing the ways to enable DPDK 18.11 new features in OVS > there was suggestions to use 'rte_eth_devices[]' array directly. > But this array is marked as '@internal' and also it located in > the internal header 'lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev_core.h' with the > following disclaimer: > > /** > * @file > * > * RTE Ethernet Device internal header. > * > * This header contains internal data types. But they are still part of the > * public API because they are used by inline functions in the published API. > * > * Applications should not use these directly. > * > */ > > From the other hand, test-pmd and some example apps in DPDK source > tree are using this array for various reasons. > > So, is it OK to use this array directly or not? > > In general we need to change the API, i.e. make 'rte_eth_devices' part > of a public API. Or change the test-pmd and example apps to stop > using it. > > One more related question: Is it OK to access internal device > stuff using 'device' pointer obtained by 'rte_eth_dev_info'? > This looks really dangerous. It's unclear why pointers like this > exposed to user. > > Thoughts? Agreed that applications shouldn't access 'rte_eth_devices' directly, they should use handler (port_id) to access devices. Only drivers are allowed to access these data structure directly. Because of inline functions we are not able to completely hide these from applications, and preferring inline functions for performance. Moving these data structures to their own header and marking as internal was to clarify the intended usage for them. I support to clean testpmd and sample applications to prevent using internal data structures. > > Best regards, Ilya Maximets. >