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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	"John W . Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net/af_packet: cache align Rx/Tx structs
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 11:21:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d2a0887-527a-4948-943c-65f1dfda9328@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63dbb564-61f6-4d9f-9c13-4a21f5e97dc9@lysator.liu.se>

On 4/23/2024 9:56 PM, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
> On 2024-04-23 13:15, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
>> On 4/23/2024 10:08 AM, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
>>> Cache align Rx and Tx queue struct to avoid false sharing.
>>>
>>> RX struct happens to be 64 bytes on x86_64 already, so cache alignment
>>> makes no change there, but it does on 32-bit ISAs.
>>>
>>> TX struct is 56 bytes on x86_64.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Mattias,
>>
>> No objection to the patch. Is the improvement theoretical or do you
>> measure any improvement practically, if so how much is the improvement?
>>
> 
> I didn't run any benchmarks.
> 
> Two cores storing to a (falsely) shared cache line on a per-packet basis
> is going to be very expensive, at least for "light touch" applications.
> 

ack
I expect for af_packet bottleneck is the kernel side, so I don't expect
any visible improvement practically, but OK to fix this theoretical issue.

>>> Both structs keep counters, and in the RX case they are updated even
>>> for empty polls.
>>>
>>
>> Do you think does it help if move 'rx_pkts' & 'rx_bytes' update within
>> the loop?
>>
> 
> No, why? Wouldn't that be worse? Especially since rx_pkts and rx_bytes
> are declared volatile, so you are forcing a load-modify-store cycle for
> every increment.
> 

My intention was to prevent updating stats in empty polls, I thought
stats will be hot in the cache but won't work with volatile.


> I would drop "volatile", or replace it with an atomic (although *not*
> use an atomic add for incrementing, but rather atomic load + <n>
> non-atomic adds + atomic store).
> 

As only single core polls from an Rx queue, I assume atomics is required
only for stats reset case. And for that case won't we need atomic add?

And do you know if there is a performance difference between atomic add
and keeping volatile qualifier?


>>> Signed-off-by: Mattias Rönnblom <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
>>> ---
>>>   drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c | 5 +++--
>>>   1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c
>>> b/drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c
>>> index 397a32db58..28aeb7d08e 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c
>>> @@ -6,6 +6,7 @@
>>>    * All rights reserved.
>>>    */
>>>   +#include <rte_common.h>
>>>   #include <rte_string_fns.h>
>>>   #include <rte_mbuf.h>
>>>   #include <ethdev_driver.h>
>>> @@ -53,7 +54,7 @@ struct pkt_rx_queue {
>>>         volatile unsigned long rx_pkts;
>>>       volatile unsigned long rx_bytes;
>>> -};
>>> +} __rte_cache_aligned;
>>>   
>>
>> Latest location for '__rte_cache_aligned' tag is at the beginning of the
>> struct [1], so something like:
>> `struct __rte_cache_aligned pkt_rx_queue {`
>>
>> [1]
>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/list/?series=31746&state=%2A&archive=both


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-24 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-23  9:08 Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-23 11:15 ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-23 20:56   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-24  0:27     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-04-24  6:28       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-24 10:21     ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2024-04-24 10:28       ` Bruce Richardson
2024-04-24 18:02         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-24 11:57       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-24 17:50         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-24 19:13           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-04-24 22:27             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-24 23:55               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-04-25  9:26                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25  9:49                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-25 14:04                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-25 15:06                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 16:21                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-25 15:07                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-04-25 14:08   ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-25 15:08     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 15:35       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26  7:25         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26  7:38 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26  8:27   ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26 10:20     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26  9:05   ` [PATCH v3] " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26  9:22     ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-26 15:10     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-04-26 15:41     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-29  8:46       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26 21:27 ` [PATCH] " Patrick Robb

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