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From: Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>
To: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] ***Spam*** Re: [RFC] mbuf: support dynamic fields and flags
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 14:31:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61c3ac7e-52f5-7d17-2150-ad209f873ea1@solarflare.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190716094909.plszssstmbj2kjaw@platinum>

On 7/16/19 12:49 PM, Olivier Matz wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 05:54:57PM +0300, Andrew Rybchenko wrote:
>> On 10.07.2019 12:29, Olivier Matz wrote:
>>> Many features require to store data inside the mbuf. As the room in mbuf
>>> structure is limited, it is not possible to have a field for each
>>> feature. Also, changing fields in the mbuf structure can break the API
>>> or ABI.
>>>
>>> This commit addresses these issues, by enabling the dynamic registration
>>> of fields or flags:
>>>
>>> - a dynamic field is a named area in the rte_mbuf structure, with a
>>>     given size (>= 1 byte) and alignment constraint.
>>> - a dynamic flag is a named bit in the rte_mbuf structure.
>>>
>>> The typical use case is a PMD that registers space for an offload
>>> feature, when the application requests to enable this feature.  As
>>> the space in mbuf is limited, the space should only be reserved if it
>>> is going to be used (i.e when the application explicitly asks for it).
>>>
>>> The registration can be done at any moment, but it is not possible
>>> to unregister fields or flags for now.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
>> I like the idea.
>>
>> I think it would be very useful to measure performance impact. Since it is
>> core structure which is heavily used on datapath, performance impact is
>> required to make decision to go or not to go. If acceptable, more fields
>> can be converted to dynamic: timestamp, user data, sequence number,
>> timesync data etc.
> Agree. I'll try to do this in the coming days.
>
>> Rules on which fields should be static and which
>> dynamic are required. Timestamp, for example, is located in the first
>> cache line. Do we need a way prioritize some dynamic fields to be located
>> (if possible) in the first cache line? Or is it better simply move some
>> static
>> to the first cache line instead?
> There is a "flags" argument, which is designed for this purpose. Today,
> there is no room in the first cache line, but as soon as we remove
> something from it, we can add a flag to ask to register a dynamic field
> in the first cache line.
>
>> I think rules should be better defined and imposed, if possible, when
>> dynamic fields may be registered. Which entities are allowed to register
>> dynamic fields?
> I think there is no restriction. Library, PMD, App can register their
> dynamic fields as soon as there is room for it.

I see that API itself has no restrictions, but the goal is to have
something working and it is very easy to break things with
dynamic fields and flags. May be obvious requirements are
sufficient (e.g. should be registered before lookup to be found
by lookup), but it is getting more complicated when drivers,
core libraries and applications come into play with their life
cycles. But may be it is really out-of-scope of the API description.

Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-16 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-10  9:29 [dpdk-dev] " Olivier Matz
2019-07-10 17:14 ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-07-11  7:26   ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-11  8:04     ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-07-11  8:20       ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-11  8:34         ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-07-11 15:31     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-12  9:18       ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-10 17:49 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-10 18:12   ` Wiles, Keith
2019-07-11  7:53     ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-11 14:37       ` Wiles, Keith
2019-07-12  9:06         ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-11  7:36   ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-12 12:23     ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-07-16  9:39       ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-16 14:43         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-11  9:24 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-07-12 14:54 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-16  9:49   ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-16 11:31     ` Andrew Rybchenko [this message]
2019-09-18 16:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " Olivier Matz
2019-09-21  4:54   ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-09-23  8:31     ` Olivier Matz
2019-09-23 11:01       ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-09-21  8:28   ` Wiles, Keith
2019-09-23  8:56     ` Morten Brørup
2019-09-23  9:41       ` Olivier Matz
2019-09-23  9:13     ` Olivier Matz
2019-09-23 15:14       ` Wiles, Keith
2019-09-23 16:16         ` Olivier Matz
2019-09-23 17:14           ` Wiles, Keith
2019-09-23 16:09       ` Wiles, Keith
2019-10-01 10:49   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-17  7:54     ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-17 11:58       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-17 12:58         ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-17 14:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Olivier Matz
2019-10-18  2:47   ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-10-18  7:53     ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-18  8:28       ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-10-18  9:47         ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-18 11:24           ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-10-22 22:51   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-23  3:16     ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-10-23 10:21       ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-23 15:00         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-23 15:12           ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-10-23 10:19     ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-23 11:45       ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-23 11:49         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-23 12:00   ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-23 13:33     ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-24  4:54       ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-24  7:07         ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-24  7:38   ` Slava Ovsiienko
2019-10-24  7:56     ` Olivier Matz
2019-10-24  8:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Olivier Matz
2019-10-24 15:30   ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-24 15:44     ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-24 17:07       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-24 16:40   ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-26 12:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Olivier Matz
2019-10-26 17:04   ` Thomas Monjalon

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