From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga09.intel.com (mga09.intel.com [134.134.136.24]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03728E82 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 16:22:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message) X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from fmsmga006.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.20]) by orsmga102.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 11 May 2018 07:22:06 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.49,389,1520924400"; d="scan'208";a="227737449" Received: from fyigit-mobl.ger.corp.intel.com (HELO [10.237.221.77]) ([10.237.221.77]) by fmsmga006.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2018 07:22:05 -0700 To: Andrew Rybchenko , Thomas Monjalon , Shahaf Shuler , Wei Dai Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" References: From: Ferruh Yigit Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=ferruh.yigit@intel.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFXZCFABEADCujshBOAaqPZpwShdkzkyGpJ15lmxiSr3jVMqOtQS/sB3FYLT0/d3+bvy qbL9YnlbPyRvZfnP3pXiKwkRoR1RJwEo2BOf6hxdzTmLRtGtwWzI9MwrUPj6n/ldiD58VAGQ +iR1I/z9UBUN/ZMksElA2D7Jgg7vZ78iKwNnd+vLBD6I61kVrZ45Vjo3r+pPOByUBXOUlxp9 GWEKKIrJ4eogqkVNSixN16VYK7xR+5OUkBYUO+sE6etSxCr7BahMPKxH+XPlZZjKrxciaWQb +dElz3Ab4Opl+ZT/bK2huX+W+NJBEBVzjTkhjSTjcyRdxvS1gwWRuXqAml/sh+KQjPV1PPHF YK5LcqLkle+OKTCa82OvUb7cr+ALxATIZXQkgmn+zFT8UzSS3aiBBohg3BtbTIWy51jNlYdy ezUZ4UxKSsFuUTPt+JjHQBvF7WKbmNGS3fCid5Iag4tWOfZoqiCNzxApkVugltxoc6rG2TyX CmI2rP0mQ0GOsGXA3+3c1MCdQFzdIn/5tLBZyKy4F54UFo35eOX8/g7OaE+xrgY/4bZjpxC1 1pd66AAtKb3aNXpHvIfkVV6NYloo52H+FUE5ZDPNCGD0/btFGPWmWRmkPybzColTy7fmPaGz cBcEEqHK4T0aY4UJmE7Ylvg255Kz7s6wGZe6IR3N0cKNv++O7QARAQABzSVGZXJydWggWWln aXQgPGZlcnJ1aC55aWdpdEBpbnRlbC5jb20+wsF+BBMBAgAoAhsDBgsJCAcDAgYVCAIJCgsE FgIDAQIeAQIXgAUCWZR3VQUJB33WBQAKCRD5M+tD3xNhH6DWEACVhEb8q1epPwZrUDoxzu7E TS1b8tmabOmnjXZRs6+EXgUVHkp2xxkCfDmL3pa5bC0G/74aJnWjNsdvE05V1cb4YK4kRQ62 FwDQ+hlrFrwFB3PtDZk1tpkzCRHvJgnIil+0MuEh32Y57ig6hy8yO8ql7Lohyrnpfk/nNpm4 jQGEF5qEeHcEFe1AZQlPHN/STno8NZSz2nl0b2cw+cujN1krmvB52Ah/2KugQ6pprVyrGrzB c34ZQO9OsmSjJlETCZk6EZzuhfe16iqBFbOSadi9sPcJRwaUQBid+xdFWl7GQ8qC3zNPibSF HmU43yBZUqJDZlhIcl6/cFpOSjv2sDWdtjEXTDn5y/0FsuY0mFE78ItC4kCTIVk17VZoywcd fmbbnwOSWzDq7hiUYuQGkIudJw5k/A1CMsyLkoUEGN3sLfsw6KASgS4XrrmPO4UVr3mH5bP1 yC7i1OVNpzvOxtahmzm481ID8sk72GC2RktTOHb0cX+qdoiMMfYgo3wRRDYCBt6YoGYUxF1p msjocXyqToKhhnFbXLaZlVfnQ9i2i8jsj9SKig+ewC2p3lkPj6ncye9q95bzhmUeJO6sFhJg Hiz6syOMg8yCcq60j07airybAuHIDNFWk0gaWAmtHZxLObZx2PVn2nv9kLYGohFekw0AOsIW ta++5m48dnCoAc7BTQRX1ky+ARAApzQNvXvE2q1LAS+Z+ni2R13Bb1cDS1ZYq1jgpR13+OKN ipzd8MPngRJilXxBaPTErhgzR0vGcNTYhjGMSyFIHVOoBq1VbP1a0Fi/NqWzJOowo/fDfgVy K4vuitc/gCJs+2se4hdZA4EQJxVlNM51lgYDNpjPGIA43MX15OLAip73+ho6NPBMuc5qse3X pAClNhBKfENRCWN428pi3WVkT+ABRTE0taxjJNP7bb+9TQYNRqGwnGzX5/XISv44asWIQCaq vOkXSUJLd//cdVNTqtL1wreCVVR5pMXj7VIrlk07fmmJVALCmGbFr53BMb8O+8dgK2A5mitM n44d+8KdJWOwziRxcaMk/LclmZS3Iv1TERtiWt98Y9AjeAtcgYPkA3ld0BcUKONogP8pHVz1 Ed3s5rDQ91yr1S0wuAzW91fxGUO4wY+uPmxCtFVuBgd9VT9NAKTUL0qHM7CDgCnZPe0TW6Zj 8OqtdCCyAfvU9cW5xWM7Icxhde6AtPxhDSBwE8fL2ZmrDmaA4jmUKXp3i4JxRPSX84S08b+s DWXHPxy10UFU5A7EK/BEbZAKBwn9ROfm+WK+6X5xOGLoRE++OqNuUudxC1GDyLOPaqCbBCS9 +P6HsTHzxsjyJa27n4jcrcuY3P9TEcFJYSZSeSDh8mVGvugi0exnSJrrBZDyVCcAEQEAAcLB ZQQYAQIADwIbDAUCWZR1ZwUJA59cIQAKCRD5M+tD3xNhH5b+D/9XG44Ci6STdcA5RO/ur05J EE3Ux1DCHZ5V7vNAtX/8Wg4l4GZfweauXwuJ1w7Sp7fklwcNC6wsceI+EmNjGMqfIaukGetG +jBGqsQ7moOZodfXUoCK98gblKgt/BPYMVidzlGC8Q/+lZg1+o29sPnwImW+MXt/Z5az/Z17 Qc265g+p5cqJHzq6bpQdnF7Fu6btKU/kv6wJghENvgMXBuyThqsyFReJWFh2wfaKyuix3Zyj ccq7/blkhzIKmtFWgDcgaSc2UAuJU+x9nuYjihW6WobpKP/nlUDu3BIsbIq09UEke+uE/QK+ FJ8PTJkAsXOf1Bc2C0XbW4Y2hf103+YY6L8weUCBsWC5VH5VtVmeuh26ENURclwfeXhWQ9Og 77yzpTXWr5g1Z0oLpYpWPv745J4bE7pv+dzxOrFdM1xNkzY2pvXph/A8OjxZNQklDkHQ7PIB Lki5L2F4XkEOddUUQchJwzMqTPsggPDmGjgLZrqgO+s4ECZK5+nLD3HEpAbPa3JLDaScy+90 Nu1lAqPUHSnP3vYZVw85ZYm6UCxHE4VLMnnJsN09ZhsOSVR+GyP5Nyw9rT1V3lcsuH7M5Naa 2Xobn9m7l9bRCD/Ji8kG15eV1WTxx1HXVQGjdUYDI7UwegBNbwMLh17XDy+3sn/6SgcqtECA Q6pZKA2mTQxEKMLBZQQYAQIADwIbDAUCWZR3hQUJA59eRwAKCRD5M+tD3xNhH4a/D/4jLAZu UhvU1swWcNEVVCELZ0D3LOV14XcY2MXa3QOpeZ9Bgq7YYJ4S5YXK+SBQS0FkRZdjGNvlGZoG ZdpU+NsQmQFhqHGwX0IT9MeTFM8uvKgxNKGwMVcV9g0IOqwBhGHne+BFboRA9362fgGW5AYQ zT0mzzRKEoOh4r3AQvbM6kLISxo0k1ujdYiI5nj/5WoKDqxTwwfuN1uDUHsWo3tzenRmpMyU NyW3Dc+1ajvXLyo09sRRq7BnM99Rix1EGL8Qhwy+j0YAv+FuspWxUX9FxXYho5PvGLHLsHfK FYQ7x/RRbpMjkJWVfIe/xVnfvn4kz+MTA5yhvsuNi678fLwY9hBP0y4lO8Ob2IhEPdfnTuIs tFVxXuelJ9xAe5TyqP0f+fQjf1ixsBZkqOohsBXDfje0iaUpYa/OQ/BBeej0dUdg2JEu4jAC x41HpVCnP9ipLpD0fYz1d/dX0F/VY2ovW6Eba/y/ngOSAR6C+u881m7oH2l0G47MTwkaQCBA bLGXPj4TCdX3lftqt4bcBPBJ+rFAnJmRHtUuyyaewBnZ81ZU2YAptqFM1kTh+aSvMvGhfVsQ qZL2rk2OPN1hg+KXhErlbTZ6oPtLCFhSHQmuxQ4oc4U147wBTUuOdwNjtnNatUhRCp8POc+3 XphVR5G70mnca1E2vzC77z+XSlTyRA== Message-ID: <62020f5c-d34c-3314-a4bf-2587801f5f8c@intel.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 15:22:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Rx/Tx offloads checks behaviour in 18.05 X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 14:22:09 -0000 On 5/11/2018 8:07 AM, Andrew Rybchenko wrote: > Hi all, > > I think that Rx/Tx offloads checks behaviour is inconsistent in next-net > as of today. > > Consistency checks are removed from PMDs and substituted with error logs > in ethdev. Yes. > Basically application which is not switched to new offload API has no > way to find out if, > for example, Rx scatter is supported. Rx scatter offload was introduced > in 17.11 to > substitute corresponding flag in device Rx mode. > > Not updated application could try to enable Rx scatter on device > configure and > get failure if it is not supported.  Yes it is not fine-grained and it > could be numerous > reasons behind the configure failure. With 18.05 configure will pass and > moreover > hardware may be configured to do Rx scatter despite of no real support > in PMD. > Consequences could be really different from simply dropping scattered > packet or > delivery of truncated packets to spoiling of memory etc. > > Similar could happen with multi-segment packet on Tx. Application configures > Tx queue without NOMULTISEG flag, TxQ setup passes (with error log that > multi-segment is not supported, but it is just an error log) and > application generates > multi-segment packets which are simply truncated (if the first segment > length is used > as packet length on transmit) or garbage is sent (if total packet length > is used, i.e. > possible disclosure of security sensitive information since it could be > data from > neighbour packet). How common these error cases do you think? > > I think we have the following options: > > A. Rollback corresponding changes which remove checks from PMDs >     (at least some PMDs will be not affected). > > B. Fail configure if unsupported offload is requested (all PMDs must be > converted >     in the release, so reporting of supported offloads must be correct) AND >     add check that offloads requested on Tx queue level (derived from > txq_flags) >     are supported at least somewhere (i.e. tx_offload_capa) Issue is not PMDs, they should support new offload API. Concern is breaking application which is out of our control. With current approach some old application may request invalid offload and PMD won't return an error to app, agreed this is a concern. But adding error returns will break same applications, in a better more obvious way, and has possibility to break more applications, ones really not concerned about offload may be hit as well. > > C. Describe the behaviour changes in release notes to try to make it at > least >     create for DPDK users. I don't like the option at all. > > Any other ideas? > > I would vote for B since it is a step forward and even if it makes some apps > to fail I think it is better than consequences of missing checks. > I'll make a patch for option B and test it meanwhile. > > Andrew >