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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Fan Zhang <roy.fan.zhang@intel.com>,
	techboard@dpdk.org, Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
Cc: Anoob Joseph <anoobj@marvell.com>, dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Akhil Goyal <akhil.goyal@nxp.com>,
	Fiona Trahe <fiona.trahe@intel.com>,
	Piotr Bronowski <piotrx.bronowski@intel.com>,
	honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] [PATCH] crypto/qat: add data-path APIs
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 12:38:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6794037.dnW9c1l1XM@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALBAE1MGP-7yUcuXirjy3yzqvQYDEgU-NELs2rPYdWA7neviHw@mail.gmail.com>

26/06/2020 08:55, Jerin Jacob:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 8:10 PM Fan Zhang <roy.fan.zhang@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > This patch adds data-path APIs to QAT symmetric dirver to support
> > raw data as input.
> >
> > For applications/libraries that want to benefit from the data-path
> > encryption acceleration provided by QAT but not necessarily depends
> > on DPDK data-path structures (such as VPP), some performance
> > degradation is unavoidable to convert between their specific data
> > structure and DPDK cryptodev operation as well as mbufs.
> >
> > This patch takes advantage of existing QAT implementations to form
> > symmetric data-path enqueue and dequeue APIs that support raw data
> > as input so that they can have wider usability towards those
> > applications/libraries without performance drop caused by the data
> > structure conversions. In the meantime the less performance-sensitive
> > cryptodev device and session management remains intact so that DPDK
> > cryptodev remains to be unified control path library for QAT.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Fan Zhang <roy.fan.zhang@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Piotr Bronowski <piotrx.bronowski@intel.com>
> > ---
> 
> + Techboard,
> 
> I think, this problem is not specific to QAT nor the crypto subsystem.
> If we are planning to expose the PMD specific descriptors, It would good to get
> general agreement from everyone. Probably we can/need to extend ethdev
> PMDs as well based on the need.
> 
> If we are taking this path, at minimum, we need a generic control path
> API with cryptodev,
> to query such capability. (Probably API to register descriptor and
> query supported descriptor as PMD
> can support multiple descriptors)

I fully agree, it needs to be a community decision.

Today, if an application wants to use DPDK, either it adopts mbuf,
or it pays the cost of mbuf conversion.

The question is: can DPDK provides helpers for a non-mbuf datapath?

The benefit is clear for applications which are not mbuf-centric.

The disadvantages I can think about:
- Opening a new API layer is adding more work for everybody
  (development, test, maintenance).
- Applications must duplicate a part of the DPDK datapath.
- Lack of consistency between the configuration APIs
  and the datapath implemented by the application.




  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-26 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-12 14:39 [dpdk-dev] " Fan Zhang
2020-06-18 17:50 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-06-25 13:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v2 0/3] crypto/qat: add symmetric crypto " Fan Zhang
2020-06-25 13:31   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v2 1/3] crypto/qat: add " Fan Zhang
2020-06-25 13:31   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v2 2/3] test/crypto: add unit-test for QAT direct APIs Fan Zhang
2020-06-30 17:47     ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-06-25 13:31   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v2 3/3] doc: add QAT direct APIs guide Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 10:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 0/3] cryptodev: add symmetric crypto data-path APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 10:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 1/3] crypto/qat: add support to direct " Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 10:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 2/3] test/crypto: add unit-test for cryptodev direct APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 10:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 3/3] doc: add cryptodev direct APIs guide Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 11:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 0/4] cryptodev: add symmetric crypto data-path APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 11:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 1/4] " Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 11:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 1/3] crypto/qat: add support to direct " Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 11:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 2/4] " Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 11:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 2/3] test/crypto: add unit-test for cryptodev direct APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 11:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 3/3] doc: add cryptodev direct APIs guide Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 11:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 3/4] test/crypto: add unit-test for cryptodev direct APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 11:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v3 4/4] doc: add cryptodev direct APIs guide Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 12:49     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v4 0/4] cryptodev: add symmetric crypto data-path APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 12:49       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v4 1/4] " Fan Zhang
2020-07-04 18:16         ` Akhil Goyal
2020-07-06 10:02           ` Zhang, Roy Fan
2020-07-06 12:13             ` Akhil Goyal
2020-07-07 12:37               ` Zhang, Roy Fan
2020-07-07 20:37                 ` Akhil Goyal
2020-07-08 15:09                   ` Zhang, Roy Fan
2020-07-03 12:49       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v4 2/4] crypto/qat: add support to direct " Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 12:49       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v4 3/4] test/crypto: add unit-test for cryptodev direct APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-03 12:49       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v4 4/4] doc: add cryptodev direct APIs guide Fan Zhang
2020-07-13 16:57       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v5 0/4] cryptodev: add symmetric crypto data-path APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-13 16:57         ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v5 1/4] cryptodev: add " Fan Zhang
2020-07-13 16:57         ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v5 2/4] crypto/qat: add support to direct " Fan Zhang
2020-07-13 16:57         ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v5 3/4] test/crypto: add unit-test for cryptodev direct APIs Fan Zhang
2020-07-13 16:57         ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev v5 4/4] doc: add cryptodev direct APIs guide Fan Zhang
2020-06-26  6:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] crypto/qat: add data-path APIs Jerin Jacob
2020-06-26 10:38   ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2020-06-30 20:33     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-06-30 21:00       ` Thomas Monjalon

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