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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	fengchengwen <fengchengwen@huawei.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Question about hardware error handling policy
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 13:33:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e220d0b-5683-ee12-bdab-1ef78d19ebdc@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4435152.k7BQ785f6v@thomas>

On 7/22/2021 4:46 PM, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 22/07/2021 15:50, fengchengwen:
>> Hi, all
>>
>>     I notice ethdev support dev_reset ops, which could be used to recover from
>> errors, and only 13+ drivers support this function.

'rte_eth_dev_reset()' can be used to reset device config to defaults, not have
to be for error recovering.

>>     And also there is event for reset: RTE_ETH_EVENT_INTR_RESET, and only 6
>> drivers support it (most of them are VF).
>>
>>     This provides users with two ways to handle hardware errors:
>>     a. driver report RTE_ETH_EVENT_INTR_RESET, and application do reset ops.
>>     b. application detect errors (the detection method is unclear), and call
>>     reset ops to recover.
>>
>>     According to the design of this API, error handling is assigned to the
>> application, and the driver is only responsible for reporting events. This
>> simplifies the driver design (for example, the driver does not need to maintain
>> mutex locks).
>>
>>     As we know, many modern NICs come with firmware, have PCIE interfaces,
>> support SR-IOV, the hardware errors can have: firmware reboot/PF reset/
>> VF reset/FLR, but these errors(particularly firmware/PF) are not addressed in
>> most drivers.
>>
>>     Question 1: what do we think of these errors(particularly firmware/PF)? Do
>> we think that the probability is very low and that there is no need to deal with
>> them?
> 
> Even rare errors must be managed.
> 

+1

>>     Question 2: I prefer to put error handling in the application layer, because
>> doing it in the driver can make the driver complex, but there is no app to
>> register the INTR_RESET event handler. I think we can build a standard handler
>> in testpmd, What do you think?
> 
> Absolutely. As any ethdev API, it must be tested with testpmd.
> 

Testpmd registers for RESET event, but when event received all it does is print
a log, so there is not logic behind it.

If the intention is to add a error handling logic into testpmd, my concern is it
being too complex or too device specific.


And if there is something to cleanup, or recover etc in application level, it
makes sense application to receive the event and act on it. But if the
reset/recover can be handled in the PMD, if possible transparently, I think that
is better choice.

Another thing is I am not sure if what the applications should do on the reset
event clear or same for all PMDs, which is not good.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-23 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-22 13:50 fengchengwen
2021-07-22 15:46 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-23  2:18   ` fengchengwen
2021-07-25 15:12     ` Matan Azrad
2021-07-26  6:21       ` fengchengwen
2021-07-23 12:33   ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2021-07-23 12:51     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-23 13:04     ` Andrew Rybchenko

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