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From: "Walukiewicz, Miroslaw" <Miroslaw.Walukiewicz@intel.com>
To: "Liang, Cunming" <cunming.liang@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/7] support multi-phtread per lcore
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:10:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7C4248CAE043B144B1CD242D275626532FE232BA@IRSMSX104.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA31188B881@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com>

Hi Cunming, 

The timers could be used by any application/library started as a standard pthread. 
Each pthread needs to have assigned some identifier same way as you are doing it for mempools (the rte_linear_thread_id and rte_lcore_id are good examples)

I made series of patches extending the rte timers API to use with such kind of identifier keeping existing API working also.

I will send it soon. 

Mirek


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liang, Cunming
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:45 AM
> To: Walukiewicz, Miroslaw; dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/7] support multi-phtread per lcore
> 
> Thanks Mirek. That's a good point which wasn't mentioned in cover letter.
> For 'rte_timer', I only expect it be used within the 'legacy per-lcore' pthread.
> I'm appreciate if you can give me some cases which can't use it to fit.
> In case have to use 'rte_timer' in multi-pthread, there are some
> prerequisites and limitations.
> 1. Make sure thread local variable 'lcore_id' is set correctly (e.g. do pthread
> init by rte_pthread_prepare)
> 2. As 'rte_timer' is not preemptable, when using rte_timer_manager/reset in
> multi-pthread, make sure they're not on the same core.
> 
> -Cunming
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:57 PM
> > To: Liang, Cunming; dev@dpdk.org
> > Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/7] support multi-phtread per lcore
> >
> > Thank you Cunming for explanation.
> >
> > What about DPDK timers? They also depend on rte_lcore_id() to avoid
> spinlocks.
> >
> > Mirek
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Cunming Liang
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:05 AM
> > > To: dev@dpdk.org
> > > Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/7] support multi-phtread per lcore
> > >
> > >
> > > Scope & Usage Scenario
> > > ========================
> > >
> > > DPDK usually pin pthread per core to avoid task switch overhead. It gains
> > > performance a lot, but it's not efficient in all cases. In some cases, it may
> > > too expensive to use the whole core for a lightweight workload. It's a
> > > reasonable demand to have multiple threads per core and each threads
> > > share CPU
> > > in an assigned weight.
> > >
> > > In fact, nothing avoid user to create normal pthread and using cgroup to
> > > control the CPU share. One of the purpose for the patchset is to clean the
> > > gaps of using more DPDK libraries in the normal pthread. In addition, it
> > > demonstrates performance gain by proactive 'yield' when doing idle loop
> > > in packet IO. It also provides several 'rte_pthread_*' APIs to easy life.
> > >
> > >
> > > Changes to DPDK libraries
> > > ==========================
> > >
> > > Some of DPDK libraries must run in DPDK environment.
> > >
> > > # rte_mempool
> > >
> > > In rte_mempool doc, it mentions a thread not created by EAL must not
> use
> > > mempools. The root cause is it uses a per-lcore cache inside mempool.
> > > And 'rte_lcore_id()' will not return a correct value.
> > >
> > > The patchset changes this a little. The index of mempool cache won't be a
> > > lcore_id. Instead of it, using a linear number generated by the allocator.
> > > For those legacy EAL per-lcore thread, it apply for an unique linear id
> > > during creation. For those normal pthread expecting to use
> rte_mempool, it
> > > requires to apply for a linear id explicitly. Now the mempool cache looks
> like
> > > a per-thread base. The linear ID actually identify for the linear thread id.
> > >
> > > However, there's another problem. The rte_mempool is not
> preemptable.
> > > The
> > > problem comes from rte_ring, so talk together in next section.
> > >
> > > # rte_ring
> > >
> > > rte_ring supports multi-producer enqueue and multi-consumer
> dequeue.
> > > But it's
> > > not preemptable. There's conversation talking about this before.
> > > http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2013-November/000714.html
> > >
> > > Let's say there's two pthreads running on the same core doing enqueue
> on
> > > the
> > > same rte_ring. If the 1st pthread is preempted by the 2nd pthread while
> it
> > > has
> > > already modified the prod.head, the 2nd pthread will spin until the 1st
> one
> > > scheduled agian. It causes time wasting. In addition, if the 2nd pthread
> has
> > > absolutely higer priority, it's more terrible.
> > >
> > > But it doesn't means we can't use. Just need to narrow down the
> situation
> > > when
> > > it's used by multi-pthread on the same core.
> > > - It CAN be used for any single-producer or single-consumer situation.
> > > - It MAY be used by multi-producer/consumer pthread whose scheduling
> > > policy
> > > are all SCHED_OTHER(cfs). User SHOULD aware of the performance
> penalty
> > > befor
> > > using it.
> > > - It MUST not be used by multi-producer/consumer pthread, while some
> of
> > > their
> > > scheduling policies is SCHED_FIFO or SCHED_RR.
> > >
> > >
> > > Performance
> > > ==============
> > >
> > > It loses performance by introducing task switching. On packet IO
> perspective,
> > > we can gain some back by improving IO effective rate. When the pthread
> do
> > > idle
> > > loop on an empty rx queue, it should proactively yield. We can also slow
> > > down
> > > rx for a bit while to take more advantage of the bulk receiving in the next
> > > loop. In practice, increase the rx ring size also helps to improve the
> overrall
> > > throughput.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cgroup Control
> > > ================
> > >
> > > Here's a simple example, there's four pthread doing packet IO on the
> same
> > > core.
> > > We expect the CPU share rate is 1:1:2:4.
> > > > mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/dpdk
> > > > mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/dpdk/thread0
> > > > mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/dpdk/thread1
> > > > mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/dpdk/thread2
> > > > mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/dpdk/thread3
> > > > cd /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/dpdk
> > > > echo 256 > thread0/cpu.shares
> > > > echo 256 > thread1/cpu.shares
> > > > echo 512 > thread2/cpu.shares
> > > > echo 1024 > thread3/cpu.shares
> > >
> > >
> > > -END-
> > >
> > > Any comments are welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *** BLURB HERE ***
> > >
> > > Cunming Liang (7):
> > >   eal: add linear thread id as pthread-local variable
> > >   mempool: use linear-tid as mempool cache index
> > >   ring: use linear-tid as ring debug stats index
> > >   eal: add simple API for multi-pthread
> > >   testpmd: support multi-pthread mode
> > >   sample: add new sample for multi-pthread
> > >   eal: macro for cpuset w/ or w/o CPU_ALLOC
> > >
> > >  app/test-pmd/cmdline.c                    |  41 +++++
> > >  app/test-pmd/testpmd.c                    |  84 ++++++++-
> > >  app/test-pmd/testpmd.h                    |   1 +
> > >  config/common_linuxapp                    |   1 +
> > >  examples/multi-pthread/Makefile           |  57 ++++++
> > >  examples/multi-pthread/main.c             | 232
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  examples/multi-pthread/main.h             |  46 +++++
> > >  lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_eal.h   |  15 ++
> > >  lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_lcore.h |  12 ++
> > >  lib/librte_eal/linuxapp/eal/eal_thread.c  | 282
> > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > >  lib/librte_mempool/rte_mempool.h          |  22 +--
> > >  lib/librte_ring/rte_ring.h                |   6 +-
> > >  12 files changed, 755 insertions(+), 44 deletions(-)
> > >  create mode 100644 examples/multi-pthread/Makefile
> > >  create mode 100644 examples/multi-pthread/main.c
> > >  create mode 100644 examples/multi-pthread/main.h
> > >
> > > --
> > > 1.8.1.4

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-15 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-11  2:04 Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/7] eal: add linear thread id as pthread-local variable Cunming Liang
2014-12-16  7:00   ` Qiu, Michael
2014-12-22 19:02   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-12-23  9:56     ` Liang, Cunming
2014-12-11  2:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/7] mempool: use linear-tid as mempool cache index Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 3/7] ring: use linear-tid as ring debug stats index Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 4/7] eal: add simple API for multi-pthread Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 5/7] testpmd: support multi-pthread mode Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 6/7] sample: add new sample for multi-pthread Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 7/7] eal: macro for cpuset w/ or w/o CPU_ALLOC Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/7] support multi-phtread per lcore Jayakumar, Muthurajan
2014-12-11  9:56 ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
2014-12-12  5:44   ` Liang, Cunming
2014-12-15 11:10     ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw [this message]
2014-12-15 11:53       ` Liang, Cunming
2014-12-18 12:20         ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
2014-12-18 14:32           ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-18 15:11             ` Olivier MATZ
2014-12-18 16:04               ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-18 16:15           ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-12-19  1:28           ` Liang, Cunming
2014-12-19 10:03             ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-22  1:51               ` Liang, Cunming
2014-12-22  9:46                 ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-22 10:01                   ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
2014-12-23  9:45                     ` Liang, Cunming
2014-12-22 18:28                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-12-23  9:19                     ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
2014-12-23  9:23                       ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-23  9:51                     ` Liang, Cunming
2015-01-08 17:05                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-08 17:23                         ` Richardson, Bruce
2015-01-09  9:51                           ` Liang, Cunming
2015-01-09  9:40                         ` Liang, Cunming
2015-01-09 11:52                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-09  9:45                         ` Liang, Cunming

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