From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>
Cc: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
Sergio Gonzalez Monroy <sergio.gonzalez.monroy@intel.com>,
Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
dev@dpdk.org, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
David Marchand <david.marchand@6wind.com>,
Heetae Ahn <heetae82.ahn@samsung.com>,
Yuanhan Liu <yliu@fridaylinux.org>,
Jianfeng Tan <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>,
Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
Yulong Pei <yulong.pei@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:29:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8917631.90xRooPCoe@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621112242.GA31460@jerin>
21/06/2017 13:22, Jerin Jacob:
> From: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>
> > On 21.06.2017 13:29, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > > From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
> > >> 21/06/2017 11:27, Jerin Jacob:
> > >>> From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
> > >>>> 21/06/2017 10:41, Jerin Jacob:
> > >>>>>>> 1. There are many machines (arm/ppc), which do not support NUMA.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://wiki.linaro.org/LEG/Engineering/Kernel/NUMA
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I did find that link too, last modified 4 years ago.
> > >>>>>> Despite that, I could not find any ARM references in libnuma sources, but
> > >>>>>> Jerin proved that there is support for it.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://oss.sgi.com/projects/libnuma/
> > >>>>>> https://github.com/numactl/numactl
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Those Linaro links are very old. ARM64 NUMA supported has been added in 4.7 kernel.
> > >>>>> I guess we are talking about build time time dependency with libnuma here.
> > >>>>> Correct? I think, Even with old arm64 kernel(< 4.6), You can build against
> > >>>>> libnuma if it is present in rootfs. Just that at runtime, it will return
> > >>>>> NUMA support not available. Correct?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> How hard is detect the presence of "numaif.h" if existing build system does not
> > >>>>> support it? If it trivial, we can enable RTE_LIBRTE_EAL_NUMA_AWARE_HUGEPAGES
> > >>>>> if build environment has "numaif.h".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Some example in linux kernel build system:
> > >>>>> http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v4.10.1/scripts/gcc-goto.sh
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think we should not try to detect numaif.h, because it should be
> > >>>> an error on platform supporting NUMA.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have installed libnuma on a NUMA and non NUMA machine.
> > >>> Compiled and ran following code on those machine and it could detect
> > >>> the numa availability. Could you add more details on the "error on
> > >>> platform supporting NUMA".
> > >>
> > >> I was saying that we do not need to detect NUMA.
> > >> If we are building DPDK for a NUMA architecture and libnuma is not
> > >> available, then it will be a problem that the user must catch.
> > >> The easiest way to catch it, is to fail on the include of numaif.h.
> > >
> > > libnuma is not really _architecture_ depended.
> > >
> > > Ilya Maximets patch disables NUMA support in common arm64 config.I
> > > think, It is not correct, We should not disable on any archs generic config.
> > >
> > > IMO, It should be enabled by default in common config and then we can
> > > detect the presence of numaif.h, if not available OR a target does not need it
> > > explicitly, proceed with disabling
> > > RTE_LIBRTE_EAL_NUMA_AWARE_HUGEPAGES. I think, That is more portable.
> >
> > Detecting of headers is impossible until dpdk doesn't have dynamic build
> > configuration system like autotools, CMake or meson.
> > Right now we just can't do that.
>
> I agree. Unless if we do something like linux kernel does it below
> http://elixir.free-electrons.com/linux/latest/source/scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/check-lxdialog.sh
>
> Either way, I think, you can enable RTE_LIBRTE_EAL_NUMA_AWARE_HUGEPAGES in
> generic arm64 config and disable on defconfig_arm64-dpaa2-linuxapp-gcc(as Hemant requested) or
> any sub arch target that does not need in RTE_LIBRTE_EAL_NUMA_AWARE_HUGEPAGES.
In this case, you can enable it in common_base and disable it only for
armv7 and dpaa2.
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2017-02-16 13:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
2017-02-16 13:26 ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-02-16 13:55 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-02-16 13:57 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-02-16 13:31 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-03-06 9:34 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-03-08 13:46 ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2017-03-09 12:57 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-03-27 13:01 ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2017-03-27 14:43 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-04-07 15:14 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-04-07 15:44 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-04-10 7:11 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-04-10 7:51 ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2017-04-10 8:05 ` Ilya Maximets
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2017-04-10 8:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Ilya Maximets
2017-04-10 10:03 ` Thomas Monjalon
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2017-06-06 6:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] Balanced " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-06 6:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-06 6:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] config: enable vhost numa awareness by default Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-06 8:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-06 8:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-06 8:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] config: enable vhost numa awareness by default Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-06 13:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-06 13:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-06 13:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] config: enable vhost numa awareness by default Ilya Maximets
2017-06-08 11:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages Ilya Maximets
2017-06-08 12:14 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-08 15:44 ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2017-06-14 6:11 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-06-19 11:10 ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-06-20 13:07 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-20 13:58 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-06-20 14:35 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-20 14:58 ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2017-06-20 15:41 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-20 15:51 ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2017-06-21 8:14 ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-06-21 8:25 ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2017-06-21 8:36 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-06-21 8:41 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-21 8:49 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-21 9:27 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-21 9:58 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-21 10:29 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-21 10:36 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-06-21 11:22 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-21 11:29 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2017-06-27 9:13 ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-06-27 9:26 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-27 9:48 ` Hemant Agrawal
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2017-06-21 8:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-21 8:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/2] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
2017-06-21 8:51 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-21 8:58 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-21 9:25 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-06-21 9:34 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-21 9:28 ` Thomas Monjalon
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2017-06-21 8:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/2] config: enable vhost numa awareness by default Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-21 10:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-21 10:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/2] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-21 10:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/2] config: enable vhost numa awareness by default Ilya Maximets
2017-06-27 9:20 ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-06-26 10:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages Ilya Maximets
2017-06-26 14:07 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-26 15:33 ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2017-06-27 8:42 ` Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-27 8:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-27 8:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/2] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-27 8:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/2] config: enable vhost numa awareness by default Ilya Maximets
2017-06-27 9:18 ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-06-27 9:21 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-27 9:41 ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-06-27 9:59 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-27 9:59 ` Jerin Jacob
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2017-06-27 13:00 ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-06-27 9:19 ` Thomas Monjalon
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2017-06-27 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-27 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/2] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-29 5:32 ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-06-29 5:48 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-06-29 6:08 ` Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-27 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/2] config: enable vhost numa awareness by default Ilya Maximets
2017-06-29 5:31 ` Hemant Agrawal
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2017-06-29 5:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages Ilya Maximets
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2017-06-29 5:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/2] mem: balanced " Ilya Maximets
2017-06-29 7:03 ` Hemant Agrawal
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2017-06-29 5:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/2] config: enable vhost numa awareness by default Ilya Maximets
2017-06-30 15:50 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-29 6:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/2] Balanced allocation of hugepages Jerin Jacob
2017-06-30 8:36 ` Ilya Maximets
2017-06-30 16:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 " Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 16:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 1/2] mem: balanced " Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 16:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 2/2] config: enable vhost NUMA awareness by default Thomas Monjalon
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