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From: "Eads, Gage" <gage.eads@intel.com>
To: Ola Liljedahl <Ola.Liljedahl@arm.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"stephen@networkplumber.org" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"arybchenko@solarflare.com" <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/5] Add non-blocking ring
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 19:15:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9184057F7FC11744A2107296B6B8EB1E541CA347@FMSMSX108.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1548149252.5247.8.camel@arm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ola Liljedahl [mailto:Ola.Liljedahl@arm.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:28 AM
> To: Eads, Gage <gage.eads@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> Cc: olivier.matz@6wind.com; stephen@networkplumber.org; Richardson, Bruce
> <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; arybchenko@solarflare.com; Ananyev,
> Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/5] Add non-blocking ring
> 
> On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 09:23 -0600, Gage Eads wrote:
> > For some users, the rte ring's "non-preemptive" constraint is not
> > acceptable; for example, if the application uses a mixture of pinned
> > high- priority threads and multiplexed low-priority threads that share
> > a mempool.
> >
> > This patchset introduces a non-blocking ring, on top of which a
> > mempool can run.
> > Crucially, the non-blocking algorithm relies on a 128-bit compare-
> > and-swap, so it is currently limited to x86_64 machines. This is also
> > an experimental API, so RING_F_NB users must build with the
> > ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_API flag.
> >
> > The ring uses more compare-and-swap atomic operations than the regular
> > rte ring:
> > With no contention, an enqueue of n pointers uses (1 + 2n) CAS
> > operations and a dequeue of n pointers uses 2. This algorithm has
> > worse average-case performance than the regular rte ring (particularly
> > a highly-contended ring with large bulk accesses), however:
> > - For applications with preemptible pthreads, the regular rte ring's
> > worst-case
> >   performance (i.e. one thread being preempted in the update_tail()
> > critical
> >   section) is much worse than the non-blocking ring's.
> > - Software caching can mitigate the average case performance for
> > ring-based
> >   algorithms. For example, a non-blocking ring based mempool (a likely
> > use case
> >   for this ring) with per-thread caching.
> >
> > The non-blocking ring is enabled via a new flag, RING_F_NB. For ease-
> > of-use, existing ring enqueue/dequeue functions work with both
> > "regular" and non-blocking rings.
> >
> > This patchset also adds non-blocking versions of ring_autotest and
> > ring_perf_autotest, and a non-blocking ring based mempool.
> >
> > This patchset makes one API change; a deprecation notice will be
> > posted in a separate commit.
> >
> > This patchset depends on the non-blocking stack patchset[1].
> >
> > [1] http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2019-January/123653.html
> >
> > v3:
> >  - Avoid the ABI break by putting 64-bit head and tail values in the
> > same
> >    cacheline as struct rte_ring's prod and cons members.
> >  - Don't attempt to compile rte_atomic128_cmpset without
> >    ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_API, as this would break a large number of
> > libraries.
> >  - Add a helpful warning to __rte_ring_do_nb_enqueue_mp() in case
> > someone tries
> >    to use RING_F_NB without the ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_API flag.
> >  - Update the ring mempool to use experimental APIs
> >  - Clarify that RINB_F_NB is only limited to x86_64 currently;
> > ARMv8.1-A builds
> >    can eventually support it with the CASP instruction.
> ARMv8.0 should be able to implement a 128-bit atomic compare exchange
> operation using LDXP/STXP.

I see, I wasn't aware these instructions were available.

> 
> From an ARM perspective, I want all atomic operations to take memory ordering
> arguments (e.g. acquire, release). Not all usages of e.g.
> atomic compare exchange require sequential consistency (which I think what
> x86 cmpxchg instruction provides). DPDK functions should not be modelled after
> x86 behaviour.
> 
> Lock-free 128-bit atomics implementations for ARM/AArch64 and x86-64 are
> available here:
> https://github.com/ARM-software/progress64/blob/master/src/lockfree.h
> 

Sure, I'll address this in the next patchset.

Thanks,
Gage

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-22 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-10 21:01 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] " Gage Eads
2019-01-10 21:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/6] ring: change head and tail to pointer-width size Gage Eads
2019-01-11  4:38   ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-01-11 19:07     ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-11 10:25   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-01-11 19:12     ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-11 19:55       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-01-15 15:48         ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-11 10:40   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-01-11 10:58     ` Bruce Richardson
2019-01-11 11:30       ` Burakov, Anatoly
     [not found]         ` <20190111115851.GC3336@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>
2019-01-11 19:27           ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-21 14:14             ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-01-22 18:27               ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-10 21:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/6] ring: add a non-blocking implementation Gage Eads
2019-01-10 21:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/6] test_ring: add non-blocking ring autotest Gage Eads
2019-01-10 21:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/6] test_ring_perf: add non-blocking ring perf test Gage Eads
2019-01-10 21:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/6] mempool/ring: add non-blocking ring handlers Gage Eads
2019-01-13 13:43   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-01-10 21:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/6] doc: add NB ring comment to EAL "known issues" Gage Eads
2019-01-11  2:51   ` Varghese, Vipin
2019-01-11 19:30     ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-14  0:07       ` Varghese, Vipin
2019-01-15 23:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/5] Add non-blocking ring Gage Eads
2019-01-15 23:52   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/5] ring: change head and tail to pointer-width size Gage Eads
2019-01-15 23:52   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/5] ring: add a non-blocking implementation Gage Eads
2019-01-15 23:52   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/5] test_ring: add non-blocking ring autotest Gage Eads
2019-01-15 23:52   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/5] test_ring_perf: add non-blocking ring perf test Gage Eads
2019-01-15 23:52   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/5] mempool/ring: add non-blocking ring handlers Gage Eads
2019-01-16  0:26   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/5] Add non-blocking ring Stephen Hemminger
2019-01-18 15:23   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Gage Eads
2019-01-18 15:23     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/5] ring: add 64-bit headtail structure Gage Eads
2019-01-18 15:23     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/5] ring: add a non-blocking implementation Gage Eads
2019-01-22 10:12       ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-22 14:49       ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-22 21:31         ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-23 10:16           ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-25 17:21             ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-28 10:35               ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-28 18:54                 ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-28 22:31                   ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-28 13:34               ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-28 13:43                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-28 14:04                   ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-28 14:06                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-28 18:59                 ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-18 15:23     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/5] test_ring: add non-blocking ring autotest Gage Eads
2019-01-18 15:23     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/5] test_ring_perf: add non-blocking ring perf test Gage Eads
2019-01-18 15:23     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/5] mempool/ring: add non-blocking ring handlers Gage Eads
2019-01-22  9:27     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/5] Add non-blocking ring Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-22 10:15       ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-22 19:15       ` Eads, Gage [this message]
2019-01-23 16:02       ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-23 16:29         ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-28 13:10           ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-25  5:20     ` [dpdk-dev] " Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-01-25 17:42       ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-25 17:56       ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-28 10:41         ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-28 18:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Gage Eads
2019-01-28 18:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/5] ring: add 64-bit headtail structure Gage Eads
2019-01-29 12:56         ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-01-30  4:26           ` Eads, Gage
2019-01-28 18:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/5] ring: add a non-blocking implementation Gage Eads
2019-01-28 18:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/5] test_ring: add non-blocking ring autotest Gage Eads
2019-01-28 18:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/5] test_ring_perf: add non-blocking ring perf test Gage Eads
2019-01-28 18:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/5] mempool/ring: add non-blocking ring handlers Gage Eads
2019-03-05 17:40       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/6] Add lock-free ring and mempool handler Gage Eads
2019-03-05 17:40         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/6] ring: add a pointer-width headtail structure Gage Eads
2019-03-05 17:40         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/6] ring: add a ring start marker Gage Eads
2019-03-05 17:40         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/6] ring: add a lock-free implementation Gage Eads
2019-03-05 17:40         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/6] test_ring: add lock-free ring autotest Gage Eads
2019-03-05 17:40         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/6] test_ring_perf: add lock-free ring perf test Gage Eads
2019-03-05 17:40         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/6] mempool/ring: add lock-free ring handlers Gage Eads
2019-03-06 15:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/6] Add lock-free ring and mempool handler Gage Eads
2019-03-06 15:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/6] ring: add a pointer-width headtail structure Gage Eads
2019-03-06 15:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/6] ring: add a ring start marker Gage Eads
2019-03-06 15:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/6] ring: add a lock-free implementation Gage Eads
2019-03-06 15:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/6] test_ring: add lock-free ring autotest Gage Eads
2019-03-06 15:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/6] test_ring_perf: add lock-free ring perf test Gage Eads
2019-03-06 15:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/6] mempool/ring: add lock-free ring handlers Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/6] Add lock-free ring and mempool handler Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35             ` Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/6] ring: add a pointer-width headtail structure Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35               ` Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/6] ring: add a ring start marker Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35               ` Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/6] ring: add a lock-free implementation Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35               ` Gage Eads
2019-03-19 15:50               ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-03-19 15:50                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-03-18 21:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/6] test_ring: add lock-free ring autotest Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35               ` Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 5/6] test_ring_perf: add lock-free ring perf test Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35               ` Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 6/6] mempool/ring: add lock-free ring handlers Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:35               ` Gage Eads
2019-03-18 21:49             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/6] Add lock-free ring and mempool handler Eads, Gage
2019-03-18 21:49               ` Eads, Gage
2019-03-19 15:51               ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-03-19 15:51                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-01 19:23                 ` Eads, Gage
2019-04-01 19:23                   ` Eads, Gage
2019-04-02 10:16                   ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-04-02 10:16                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-04-04 22:28                     ` Eads, Gage
2019-04-04 22:28                       ` Eads, Gage
2019-03-19  1:20             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 " Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20               ` Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/6] ring: add a pointer-width headtail structure Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20                 ` Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/6] ring: add a ring start marker Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20                 ` Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/6] ring: add a lock-free implementation Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20                 ` Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/6] test_ring: add lock-free ring autotest Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20                 ` Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 5/6] test_ring_perf: add lock-free ring perf test Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20                 ` Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 6/6] mempool/ring: add lock-free ring handlers Gage Eads
2019-03-19  1:20                 ` Gage Eads
2019-04-03 16:46               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/6] Add lock-free ring and mempool handler Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-03 16:46                 ` Thomas Monjalon

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