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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Thomas Monjalon" <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	"Marc Sune" <marcdevel@gmail.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] ethdev: add port speed capability bitmap
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 09:33:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC358AF3BF@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5061522.mAytVLfEX7@xps13>

Very valid question, Thomas. It's always a good idea to take a step back and look at the bigger picture!

Unfortunately, I can mention at least one company that has network appliances in production using such low speeds, and even half duplex: ours (SmartShare Systems). Basing our appliances on DPDK does not change this situation.

When you ship a lot of network appliances to a variety of customers, some of the appliances will eventually end up at customers who connects one of the ports to some equipment which is either very old, or which is configured for forced speed/duplex due to their old IT policy which hasn't been updated for decades. With a sufficient number customers, you are going to see everything possible! Reality surpasses imagination.


Med venlig hilsen / kind regards
- Morten Brørup

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas.monjalon@6wind.com] 
Sent: 15. september 2015 09:05
To: Marc Sune
Cc: Morten Brørup; Nélio Laranjeiro; dev@dpdk.org; Olga Shern; Adrien Mazarguil
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] ethdev: add port speed capability bitmap

2015-09-14 23:33, Marc Sune:
> 2015-09-14 12:52 GMT+02:00 Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>:
> > This support function will be able to determine which speed is 
> > higher when exotic speeds are added to the bitmap. Please extend 
> > this conversion function to give three output parameters: speed, 
> > full/half duplex, auto negotiation/non-auto negotiation, or add two 
> > separate functions to get the duplex and auto-negotiation.
> 
> Since, Full/Half duplex is for legacy 10/100Mbps only (afaik), I have 
> my doubts on using a bit for all speeds. I would suggest to define 
> (unroll) 100M (or 100M_FD) and 100M_HD, and the same 10Mbps/1gbps, as 
> Thomas was suggesting some mails ago.
> 
> This was done in v4 (implicitely 100M == 100M_FD). See below.

Are we going to use DPDK for such low speeds?
Maybe we can remove half duplex modes?

[...]
> So, as of v4 of this patch, there could be: a) autoneg any supported 
> speed (=> bitmap == 0) b) autoneg over group of speeds (=> more than 
> one bit set in the bitmap) c) forced speed (one and only one set in the bitmap).

+1

[...]
> * encode the link speed and duplex as of now, separating duplex and 
> numeric speed. I would suggest to add the encoded speed+duplex bitmap 
> flag for consistency (although redundant).
> * or you return a single value, the bitmap with a single flag set of 
> the unrolled speeds, and then have the helpers int 
> rte_eth_speed_from_bm(int
> val_bm) and bool rte_eth_duplex_from_bm(int val_bm).

Who has already used half duplex mode with DPDK?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-15  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-11 23:45 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH " Marc Sune
2015-05-11 23:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/2] Added ETH_SPEED_CAP bitmap in rte_eth_dev_info Marc Sune
2015-05-25 17:46   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-05-26  8:41     ` Marc Sune
2015-05-26 15:03   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-05-26 15:09     ` Marc Sune
2015-05-11 23:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/2] Filling speed capability bitmaps in the PMDs Marc Sune
2015-05-25 16:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/2] ethdev: add port speed capability bitmap Marc Sune
2015-05-26 19:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " Marc Sune
2015-05-26 19:50   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] Added ETH_SPEED_CAP bitmap in rte_eth_dev_info Marc Sune
2015-05-27  4:02     ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-05-27  9:15       ` Marc Sune
2015-05-29 18:23         ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-08  8:50           ` Marc Sune
2015-06-11  9:08             ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-11 14:35               ` Marc Sune
2015-05-26 19:50   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] Filling speed capability bitmaps in the PMDs Marc Sune
2015-05-26 21:20     ` Igor Ryzhov
2015-05-27  8:59       ` Marc Sune
2015-08-28 23:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev: add port speed capability bitmap Marc Sune
2015-08-28 23:20     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] Added ETH_SPEED_ bitmap in rte_eth_dev_info Marc Sune
2015-08-28 23:20     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] Filling speed capability bitmaps in the PMDs Marc Sune
2015-08-29  0:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] ethdev: add port speed capability bitmap Marc Sune
2015-08-29  0:16       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] Added ETH_SPEED_ bitmap in rte_eth_dev_info Marc Sune
2015-08-29  0:16       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] Filling speed capability bitmaps in the PMDs Marc Sune
2015-09-07 20:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] ethdev: add port speed capability bitmap Marc Sune
2015-09-08 10:03         ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2015-09-08 20:26           ` Marc Sune
2015-09-09 13:10           ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2015-09-09 13:33             ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-09-13 19:14               ` Marc Sune
2015-09-13 21:18                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-09-14 10:02                   ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2015-09-14 10:52                   ` Morten Brørup
2015-09-14 21:33                     ` Marc Sune
2015-09-14 22:50                       ` Morten Brørup
2015-09-15  8:25                         ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2015-09-15  8:48                           ` Marc Sune
2015-09-15  9:39                             ` Morten Brørup
2015-09-15 10:04                             ` Adrien Mazarguil
2015-09-15 10:24                               ` Morten Brørup
2015-09-15 21:20                               ` Marc Sune
2015-09-16 14:41                                 ` Adrien Mazarguil
2015-09-15  7:05                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-09-15  7:33                         ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2015-09-15  9:06                       ` Morten Brørup
2015-10-04 21:12       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] ethdev: add speed capabilities and refactor link API Marc Sune
2015-10-04 21:12         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] ethdev: Added ETH_SPEED_CAP bitmap for ports Marc Sune
2015-10-04 21:12         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] ethdev: Fill speed capability bitmaps in the PMDs Marc Sune
2015-10-04 21:12         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] ethdev: redesign link speed config API Marc Sune
2015-10-05 10:59           ` Neil Horman
2015-10-07 13:31             ` Marc Sune
2015-10-06 13:48           ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2015-10-07 13:37             ` Marc Sune
2016-01-28 17:33           ` Harish Patil
2016-02-02  2:20             ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-02-02 22:30               ` Marc
2016-02-11 15:27                 ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2016-02-11 23:23                   ` Marc
2015-10-04 21:12         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] doc: update with link changes Marc Sune
2015-10-04 21:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] ethdev: add speed capabilities and refactor link API Marc Sune

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