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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Andrew Rybchenko" <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"Olivier Matz" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 4/4] mempool: flush cache completely on overflow
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 16:44:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D873B7@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221009133737.795377-5-andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>

> From: Andrew Rybchenko [mailto:andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru]
> Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 15.38
> To: Olivier Matz
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Morten Brørup; Bruce Richardson
> Subject: [PATCH v6 4/4] mempool: flush cache completely on overflow
> 
> The cache was still full after flushing. In the opposite direction,
> i.e. when getting objects from the cache, the cache is refilled to full
> level when it crosses the low watermark (which happens to be zero).
> Similarly, the cache should be flushed to empty level when it crosses
> the high watermark (which happens to be 1.5 x the size of the cache).
> The existing flushing behaviour was suboptimal for real applications,
> because crossing the low or high watermark typically happens when the
> application is in a state where the number of put/get events are out of
> balance, e.g. when absorbing a burst of packets into a QoS queue
> (getting more mbufs from the mempool), or when a burst of packets is
> trickling out from the QoS queue (putting the mbufs back into the
> mempool).
> Now, the mempool cache is completely flushed when crossing the flush
> threshold, so only the newly put (hot) objects remain in the mempool
> cache afterwards.
> 
> This bug degraded performance caused by too frequent flushing.
> 
> Consider this application scenario:
> 
> Either, an lcore thread in the application is in a state of balance,
> where it uses the mempool cache within its flush/refill boundaries; in
> this situation, the flush method is less important, and this fix is
> irrelevant.
> 
> Or, an lcore thread in the application is out of balance (either
> permanently or temporarily), and mostly gets or puts objects from/to
> the
> mempool. If it mostly puts objects, not flushing all of the objects
> will
> cause more frequent flushing. This is the scenario addressed by this
> fix. E.g.:
> 
> Cache size=256, flushthresh=384 (1.5x size), initial len=256;
> application burst len=32.
> 
> If there are "size" objects in the cache after flushing, the cache is
> flushed at every 4th burst.
> 
> If the cache is flushed completely, the cache is only flushed at every
> 16th burst.
> 
> As you can see, this bug caused the cache to be flushed 4x too
> frequently in this example.
> 
> And when/if the application thread breaks its pattern of continuously
> putting objects, and suddenly starts to get objects instead, it will
> either get objects already in the cache, or the get() function will
> refill the cache.
> 
> The concept of not flushing the cache completely was probably based on
> an assumption that it is more likely for an application's lcore thread
> to get() after flushing than to put() after flushing.
> I strongly disagree with this assumption! If an application thread is
> continuously putting so much that it overflows the cache, it is much
> more likely to keep putting than it is to start getting. If in doubt,
> consider how CPU branch predictors work: When the application has done
> something many times consecutively, the branch predictor will expect
> the
> application to do the same again, rather than suddenly do something
> else.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> Signed-off-by: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
> ---

Reviewed-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-09 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-26 15:34 [RFC] mempool: rte_mempool_do_generic_get optimizations Morten Brørup
2022-01-06 12:23 ` [PATCH] mempool: optimize incomplete cache handling Morten Brørup
2022-01-06 16:55   ` Jerin Jacob
2022-01-07  8:46     ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-10  7:26       ` Jerin Jacob
2022-01-10 10:55         ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-14 16:36 ` [PATCH] mempool: fix get objects from mempool with cache Morten Brørup
2022-01-17 17:35   ` Bruce Richardson
2022-01-18  8:25     ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-18  9:07       ` Bruce Richardson
2022-01-24 15:38   ` Olivier Matz
2022-01-24 16:11     ` Olivier Matz
2022-01-28 10:22     ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-17 11:52 ` [PATCH] mempool: optimize put objects to " Morten Brørup
2022-01-19 14:52 ` [PATCH v2] mempool: fix " Morten Brørup
2022-01-19 15:03 ` [PATCH v3] " Morten Brørup
2022-01-24 15:39   ` Olivier Matz
2022-01-28  9:37     ` Morten Brørup
2022-02-02  8:14 ` [PATCH v2] mempool: fix get objects from " Morten Brørup
2022-06-15 21:18   ` Morten Brørup
2022-09-29 10:52     ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-04 12:57   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-04 15:13     ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-04 15:58       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-04 18:09         ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-06 13:43       ` Aaron Conole
2022-10-04 16:03   ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-04 16:36   ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-04 16:39   ` Morten Brørup
2022-02-02 10:33 ` [PATCH v4] mempool: fix mempool cache flushing algorithm Morten Brørup
2022-04-07  9:04   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-07  9:14     ` Bruce Richardson
2022-04-07  9:26       ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-07 10:32         ` Bruce Richardson
2022-04-07 10:43           ` Bruce Richardson
2022-04-07 11:36             ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-04 20:01   ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-09 11:11   ` [PATCH 1/2] mempool: check driver enqueue result in one place Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 11:11     ` [PATCH 2/2] mempool: avoid usage of term ring on put Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 13:08       ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-09 13:14         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 13:01     ` [PATCH 1/2] mempool: check driver enqueue result in one place Morten Brørup
2022-10-09 13:19   ` [PATCH v4] mempool: fix mempool cache flushing algorithm Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-04 12:53 ` [PATCH v3] mempool: fix get objects from mempool with cache Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-04 14:42   ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-07 10:44 ` [PATCH v4] " Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-08 20:56   ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-10-11 20:30     ` Copy-pasted code should be updated Morten Brørup
2022-10-11 21:47       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-10-30  8:44         ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-30 22:50           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-10-14 14:01     ` [PATCH v4] mempool: fix get objects from mempool with cache Olivier Matz
2022-10-09 13:37 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] mempool: fix mempool cache flushing algorithm Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 13:37   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] mempool: check driver enqueue result in one place Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 13:37   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] mempool: avoid usage of term ring on put Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 13:37   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] mempool: fix cache flushing algorithm Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 14:31     ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-09 14:51       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 15:08         ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-14 14:01           ` Olivier Matz
2022-10-14 15:57             ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-14 19:50               ` Olivier Matz
2022-10-15  6:57                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-18 16:32                   ` Jerin Jacob
2022-10-09 13:37   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] mempool: flush cache completely on overflow Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-09 14:44     ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2022-10-14 14:01       ` Olivier Matz
2022-10-10 15:21   ` [PATCH v6 0/4] mempool: fix mempool cache flushing algorithm Thomas Monjalon
2022-10-11 19:26     ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-26 14:09     ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-10-26 14:26       ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-26 14:44         ` [PATCH] mempool: cache align mempool cache objects Morten Brørup
2022-10-26 19:44           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-27  8:34           ` Olivier Matz
2022-10-27  9:22             ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-27 11:42               ` Olivier Matz
2022-10-27 12:11                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-27 15:20                   ` Olivier Matz
2022-10-28  6:35           ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Morten Brørup
2022-10-28  6:35             ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mempool: optimized debug statistics Morten Brørup
2022-10-28  6:41           ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mempool: cache align mempool cache objects Morten Brørup
2022-10-28  6:41             ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mempool: optimized debug statistics Morten Brørup
2022-10-30  9:09               ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-30  9:16                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-10-30  9:17             ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mempool: cache align mempool cache objects Thomas Monjalon

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