From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
dev@dpdk.org, "Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: "Heng Wang" <heng.wang@ericsson.com>,
"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
<techboard@dpdk.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC v2 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:18:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F3EF@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c36f19cc-6c1c-4d14-8ba4-07a87ef5162a@lysator.liu.se>
> From: Mattias Rönnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
> Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2024 16.36
>
> On 2024-04-25 12:25, Morten Brørup wrote:
> >> +#define rte_bit_atomic_test(addr, nr, memory_order)
> \
> >> + _Generic((addr), \
> >> + uint32_t *: __rte_bit_atomic_test32, \
> >> + uint64_t *: __rte_bit_atomic_test64)(addr, nr,
> memory_order)
> >
> > I wonder if these should have RTE_ATOMIC qualifier:
> >
> > + RTE_ATOMIC(uint32_t) *: __rte_bit_atomic_test32,
> \
> > + RTE_ATOMIC(uint64_t) *: __rte_bit_atomic_test64)(addr, nr,
> memory_order)
> >
> >
> >> +#define __RTE_GEN_BIT_ATOMIC_TEST(size)
> \
> >> + static inline bool \
> >> + __rte_bit_atomic_test ## size(const uint ## size ## _t *addr,
> \
> >
> > I wonder if the "addr" parameter should have RTE_ATOMIC qualifier:
> >
> > + __rte_bit_atomic_test ## size(const RTE_ATOMIC(uint ## size ## _t)
> *addr, \
> >
> > instead of casting into a_addr.
> >
>
> Check the cover letter for the rationale for the cast.
Thanks, that clarifies it. Then...
For the series:
Acked-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
>
> Where I'm at now is that I think C11 _Atomic is rather poor design. The
> assumption that an object which allows for atomic access always should
> require all operations upon it to be atomic, regardless of where it is
> in its lifetime, and which thread is accessing it, does not hold, in the
> general case.
It might be slow, but I suppose the C11 standard prioritizes correctness over performance.
It seems locks are automatically added to _Atomic types larger than what is natively supported by the architecture.
E.g. MSVC adds locks to _Atomic types larger than 8 byte. [1]
[1]: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/c11-atomics-in-visual-studio-2022-version-17-5-preview-2/
>
> The only reason for _Atomic being as it is, as far as I can see, is to
> accommodate for ISAs which does not have the appropriate atomic machine
> instructions, and thus require a lock or some other data associated with
> the actual user-data-carrying bits. Neither GCC nor DPDK supports any
> such ISAs, to my knowledge. I suspect neither never will. So the cast
> will continue to work.
I tend to agree with you on this.
We should officially decide that DPDK treats RTE_ATOMIC types as a union of _Atomic and non-atomic, i.e. operations on RTE_ATOMIC types can be both atomic and non-atomic.
>
> >> + unsigned int nr, int memory_order) \
> >> + { \
> >> + RTE_ASSERT(nr < size); \
> >> + \
> >> + const RTE_ATOMIC(uint ## size ## _t) *a_addr = \
> >> + (const RTE_ATOMIC(uint ## size ## _t) *)addr; \
> >> + uint ## size ## _t mask = (uint ## size ## _t)1 << nr; \
> >> + return rte_atomic_load_explicit(a_addr, memory_order) &
> mask; \
> >> + }
> >
> >
> > Similar considerations regarding volatile qualifier for the "once"
> operations.
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-25 16:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-02 13:53 [RFC 0/7] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 1/7] eal: extend bit manipulation functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 17:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-03 6:26 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 16:34 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 18:01 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 18:06 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 11:12 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-03 6:41 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-03 23:30 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-05-04 15:36 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 10:37 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 11:58 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 10:25 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-25 14:36 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 16:18 ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2024-04-26 9:39 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 12:00 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-28 15:37 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 7:24 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 16:52 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 18:05 ` [RFC v2 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-26 11:17 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 21:35 ` Patrick Robb
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 2/7] eal: add generic bit manipulation macros Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 8:16 ` Heng Wang
2024-03-04 15:41 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 16:42 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 18:08 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 18:22 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 20:02 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 20:53 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 3/7] eal: add bit manipulation functions which read or write once Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 4/7] eal: add generic once-type bit operations macros Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 5/7] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 6/7] eal: add generic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 7/7] eal: deprecate relaxed family of " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 17:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-03 6:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
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