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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Erik Gabriel Carrillo" <erik.g.carrillo@intel.com>,
	"David Marchand" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	<maria.lingemark@ericsson.com>,
	"Stefan Sundkvist" <stefan.sundkvist@ericsson.com>,
	"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC v2 0/2] Add high-performance timer facility
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 23:32:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F771@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241003113632.2be4c2b7@hermes.local>

> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2024 20.37
> 
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:03:40 +0100
> Mattias Rönnblom <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
> > This patchset is an attempt to introduce a high-performance, highly
> > scalable timer facility into DPDK.
> >
> > More specifically, the goals for the htimer library are:
> >
> > * Efficient handling of a handful up to hundreds of thousands of
> >   concurrent timers.
> > * Make adding and canceling timers low-overhead, constant-time
> >   operations.
> > * Provide a service functionally equivalent to that of
> >   <rte_timer.h>. API/ABI backward compatibility is secondary.
> 
> Worthwhile goals, and the problem needs to be addressed.
> But this patch never got accepted.

I think work on it was put on hold due to the requested changes requiring a significant development effort.
I too look forward to work on this being resumed. ;-)

> 
> Please fix/improve/extend existing rte_timer instead.

The rte_timer API is too "fat" for use in the fast path with millions of timers, e.g. TCP flow timers.

Shoehorning a fast path feature into a slow path API is not going to cut it. I support having a separate htimer library with its own API for high volume, high-performance fast path timers.

When striving for low latency across the internet, timing is everything. Packet pacing is the "new" hot thing in congestion control algorithms, and a simple software implementation would require a timer firing once per packet.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-03 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-28  9:39 [RFC " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-02-28  9:39 ` [RFC 1/2] eal: add bitset type Mattias Rönnblom
2023-02-28 18:46   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-03-02  6:31     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-03-02 20:39       ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-02-28  9:39 ` [RFC 2/2] eal: add high-performance timer facility Mattias Rönnblom
2023-03-05 17:25   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-03-09 15:20     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-02-28 16:01 ` [RFC 0/2] Add " Morten Brørup
2023-03-01 11:18   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-03-01 13:31     ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-01 15:50       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-03-01 17:06         ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-15 17:03 ` [RFC v2 " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-03-15 17:03   ` [RFC v2 1/2] eal: add bitset type Mattias Rönnblom
2023-03-15 17:20     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-03-15 18:27       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-03-15 17:03   ` [RFC v2 2/2] eal: add high-performance timer facility Mattias Rönnblom
2023-03-16  3:55     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-03-17  1:58     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-03-22 12:18     ` Morten Brørup
2023-04-03 12:04       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-04-04  7:32         ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-24 16:00     ` Morten Brørup
2023-07-06 22:41     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-07-12  8:58       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-03 18:36   ` [RFC v2 0/2] Add " Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-03 21:32     ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2024-10-06 13:02       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-06 13:43         ` Morten Brørup
2024-10-06 14:43           ` Mattias Rönnblom

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