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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Aaron Conole" <aconole@redhat.com>,
	"Kevin Traynor" <ktraynor@redhat.com>,
	<maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, <techboard@dpdk.org>
Subject: DPDK compilers and RHEL 7 support
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 08:55:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9FB78@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250326122036.6cc7c02e@hermes.local>

+ Red Hat tech board members

> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2025 20.21
> 
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 19:06:58 +0100
> Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> 
> > > From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2025 17.22
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 05:22:15PM +0000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > > > When doing a build for a target that already has the instruction
> sets
> > > > for AVX2/AVX512 enabled, skip emitting the AVX compiler flags, or
> the
> > > > skylake-avx512 '-march' flags, as they are unnecessary. Instead,
> when
> > > > the default flags produce the desired output, just use them
> > > unmodified.
> > > >
> > > > Depends-on: series-34915 ("remove component-specific logic for
> AVX
> > > builds")
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > This patchset depends on the previous AVX rework. However,
> sending it
> > > > separately as a new RFC because it effectively increases the
> minimum
> > > > compiler versions needed for x86 builds - from GCC 5 to 6, and
> > > > Clang 3.6 to 3.9.
> > > >
> > > > For now, I've just documented that as an additional note in the
> GSG
> > > that
> > > > these versions are recommended, but it would be simpler if we
> could
> > > just
> > > > set them as the required minimum baseline (at least in the docs).
> > > >
> > > > Feedback on these compiler version requirements welcome.
> > > >
> > >
> > > +techboard
> > >
> > > Ping for a little bit of feedback for this. Are we ok to bump the
> > > minimum
> > > compiler versions as described above, or will I continue with the
> > > approach
> > > in this RFC of keeping the minimum and just recommending the higher
> > > versions for x86 platforms?
> > >
> > > For reference GCC 6.1 was released April 2016[1], and, Clang 3.9
> was
> > > released Sept 2016[2]
> > >
> > > /Bruce
> > >
> > > [1] https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-6/
> > > [2] https://releases.llvm.org/
> >
> > Considering GCC versions shipped with RHEL [3]...
> > We kind of support RHEL 7, but we already require a newer compiler
> (GCC 5) than shipped with RHEL 7 (GCC 4.8).
> > RHEL 8 ships with GCC 8, which was released in May 2018 [4]. Maybe we
> can jump to GCC 8?
> >
> > BTW, we should also apply the same principle I argued [5] should
> apply for upgrading the Kernel requirements: There should be a need for
> specific feature or similar - which there is with your patch - and the
> details should be mentioned in the release notes.
> >
> > [3]: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/19458
> > [4]: https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-8/
> > [5]:
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/CAMEVEZutf4sJ=EQFONw_bJW0tGTWqTbF_Tk_y38qzBL
> ccco46Q@mail.gmail.com/T/#me7c8f1dbe4331ccf232d43512d6ddb51458c568a
> >
> 
> RHEL 7 reached end of life on June 30, 2024.
> DPDK need no longer support it on future versions.

CentOS 7 reached EOL June 2024, yes.
RHEL 7 reached End of Maintenance June 2024, but RHEL 7 Extended Life Cycle Support is available until June 2028 [6].

Although RHEL 7 not fully EOL, I would consider "End Of Maintenance" sufficiently dead for future DPDK versions not needing to support it.
If you are running a production system on a distro that's on Extended Life Cycle Support, you shouldn't deploy a new DPDK version - and if you do anyway, it's your own problem, not the DPDK community's problem.
@Aaron, @Kevin, @Maxime - speak up if you disagree!


[6]: https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux/rhel-7-end-of-maintenance


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-27  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-25 17:22 [RFC PATCH] build: reduce use of AVX compiler flags Bruce Richardson
2025-03-26 16:21 ` Bruce Richardson
2025-03-26 18:06   ` Morten Brørup
2025-03-26 19:20     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-03-27  7:55       ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2025-03-27 11:11         ` DPDK compilers and RHEL 7 support Kevin Traynor

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