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From: "Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
To: Ori Kam <orika@mellanox.com>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	 "Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"arybchenko@solarflare.com" <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	"shahafs@mellanox.com" <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
	"viacheslavo@mellanox.com" <viacheslavo@mellanox.com>,
	"alexr@mellanox.com" <alexr@mellanox.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] ethdev: support hairpin queue
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 04:00:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9BB6961774997848B5B42BEC655768F81150C0CA@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1565703468-55617-1-git-send-email-orika@mellanox.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Ori Kam
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:38 PM
> To: thomas@monjalon.net; Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>;
> arybchenko@solarflare.com; shahafs@mellanox.com; viacheslavo@mellanox.com;
> alexr@mellanox.com
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; orika@mellanox.com
> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] ethdev: support hairpin queue
> 
> This RFC replaces RFC[1].
> 
> The hairpin feature (different name can be forward) acts as "bump on the wire",
> meaning that a packet that is received from the wire can be modified using
> offloaded action and then sent back to the wire without application intervention
> which save CPU cycles.
> 
> The hairpin is the inverse function of loopback in which application
> sends a packet then it is received again by the
> application without being sent to the wire.
> 
> The hairpin can be used by a number of different NVF, for example load
> balancer, gateway and so on.
> 
> As can be seen from the hairpin description, hairpin is basically RX queue
> connected to TX queue.
> 
> During the design phase I was thinking of two ways to implement this
> feature the first one is adding a new rte flow action. and the second
> one is create a special kind of queue.
> 
> The advantages of using the queue approch:
> 1. More control for the application. queue depth (the memory size that
> should be used).
> 2. Enable QoS. QoS is normaly a parametr of queue, so in this approch it
> will be easy to integrate with such system.


Which kind of QoS?

> 3. Native integression with the rte flow API. Just setting the target
> queue/rss to hairpin queue, will result that the traffic will be routed
> to the hairpin queue.
> 4. Enable queue offloading.
> 
Looks like the hairpin queue is just hardware queue, it has no relationship with host memory. It makes the queue concept a little bit confusing. And why do we need to setup queues, maybe some info in eth_conf is enough?

Not sure how your hardware make the hairpin work? Use rte_flow for packet modification offload? Then how does HW distribute packets to those hardware queue, classification? If So, why not just extend rte_flow with the hairpin action?

> Each hairpin Rxq can be connected Txq / number of Txqs which can belong to a
> different ports assuming the PMD supports it. The same goes the other
> way each hairpin Txq can be connected to one or more Rxqs.
> This is the reason that both the Txq setup and Rxq setup are getting the
> hairpin configuration structure.
> 
> From PMD prespctive the number of Rxq/Txq is the total of standard
> queues + hairpin queues.
> 
> To configure hairpin queue the user should call
> rte_eth_rx_hairpin_queue_setup / rte_eth_tx_hairpin_queue_setup insteed
> of the normal queue setup functions.

If the new API introduced to avoid ABI change, would one API rte_eth_rx_hairpin_setup be enough?

Thanks
Jingjing

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-05  4:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-13 13:37 Ori Kam
2019-08-13 15:46 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-08-14  5:35   ` Ori Kam
2019-08-14  6:05     ` Ori Kam
2019-08-14 14:56       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-08-15  4:41         ` Ori Kam
2019-08-25 14:06           ` Ori Kam
2019-09-05  4:00 ` Wu, Jingjing [this message]
2019-09-05  5:44   ` Ori Kam
2019-09-06  3:08     ` Wu, Jingjing
2019-09-08  6:44       ` Ori Kam

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