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From: Gavin Hu <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>
To: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, nd <nd@arm.com>,
	"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"ktraynor@redhat.com" <ktraynor@redhat.com>,
	"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	Ruifeng Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>,
	Phil Yang <Phil.Yang@arm.com>, Joyce Kong <Joyce.Kong@arm.com>,
	"stable@dpdk.org" <stable@dpdk.org>,
	Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] mbuf: replace zero-length marker with unnamed union
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 07:36:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM0PR08MB53631F88CD719411B146EA188FFA0@AM0PR08MB5363.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200311120739.GA1922@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>

Hi Bruce,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM
> To: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> Cc: Gavin Hu <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>; Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>;
> dev@dpdk.org; nd <nd@arm.com>; david.marchand@redhat.com;
> thomas@monjalon.net; ktraynor@redhat.com; jerinj@marvell.com;
> Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>; Ruifeng Wang
> <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>; Phil Yang <Phil.Yang@arm.com>; Joyce Kong
> <Joyce.Kong@arm.com>; stable@dpdk.org; Olivier MATZ
> <olivier.matz@6wind.com>; Konstantin Ananyev
> <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Andrew Rybchenko
> <arybchenko@solarflare.com>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] mbuf: replace zero-length marker with
> unnamed union
> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:04:33AM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > > From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Gavin Hu
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:50 AM
> > >
> > > Hi Morten,
> > >
> > > > From: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 9:31 PM
> > > >
> > > > > From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Ferruh Yigit
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 12:30 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/9/2020 9:45 AM, Gavin Hu wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Ferruh,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
> > > > > >> Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 4:55 PM
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 3/7/2020 3:56 PM, Gavin Hu wrote:
> > > > > >>> Declaring zero-length arrays in other contexts, including as
> > > > > interior
> > > > > >>> members of structure objects or as non-member objects, is
> > > > > discouraged.
> > > > > >>> Accessing elements of zero-length arrays declared in such
> > > contexts
> > > > > is
> > > > > >>> undefined and may be diagnosed.[1]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Fix by using unnamed union and struct.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> https://bugs.dpdk.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Bugzilla ID: 396
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> [1] https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Zero-Length.html
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Fixes: 3e6181b07038 ("mbuf: use structure marker from EAL")
> > > > > >>> Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Signed-off-by: Gavin Hu <gavin.hu@arm.com>
> > > > > >>> ---
> > > > > >>> v2:
> > > > > >>> * change 'uint64_t rearm_data' to 'uint_64_t rearm_data[1]' to
> > > fix
> > > > > >>>   the SFC PMD compiling error on x86. <Kevin Traynor>
> > > > > >>> ---
> > > > > >>>  lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h | 54 +++++++++++++++++++----
> --
> > > ----
> > > > > ----
> > > > > >>>  1 file changed, 32 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> diff --git a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h
> > > > > >> b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h
> > > > > >>> index b9a59c879..34cb152e2 100644
> > > > > >>> --- a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h
> > > > > >>> +++ b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h
> > > > > >>> @@ -480,31 +480,41 @@ struct rte_mbuf {
> > > > > >>>  		rte_iova_t buf_physaddr; /**< deprecated */
> > > > > >>>  	} __rte_aligned(sizeof(rte_iova_t));
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> -	/* next 8 bytes are initialised on RX descriptor rearm */
> > > > > >>> -	RTE_MARKER64 rearm_data;
> > > > > >>> -	uint16_t data_off;
> > > > > >>> -
> > > > > >>> -	/**
> > > > > >>> -	 * Reference counter. Its size should at least equal to the
> > > size
> > > > > >>> -	 * of port field (16 bits), to support zero-copy broadcast.
> > > > > >>> -	 * It should only be accessed using the following
> > > functions:
> > > > > >>> -	 * rte_mbuf_refcnt_update(), rte_mbuf_refcnt_read(), and
> > > > > >>> -	 * rte_mbuf_refcnt_set(). The functionality of these
> > > functions
> > > > > (atomic,
> > > > > >>> -	 * or non-atomic) is controlled by the
> > > > > >> CONFIG_RTE_MBUF_REFCNT_ATOMIC
> > > > > >>> -	 * config option.
> > > > > >>> -	 */
> > > > > >>>  	RTE_STD_C11
> > > > > >>>  	union {
> > > > > >>> -		rte_atomic16_t refcnt_atomic; /**< Atomically
> > > accessed
> > > > > >> refcnt */
> > > > > >>> -		/** Non-atomically accessed refcnt */
> > > > > >>> -		uint16_t refcnt;
> > > > > >>> -	};
> > > > > >>> -	uint16_t nb_segs;         /**< Number of segments. */
> > > > > >>> +		/* next 8 bytes are initialised on RX descriptor
> > > rearm */
> > > > > >>> +		uint64_t rearm_data[1];
> > > > > >> We are using zero length array as markers only and know what we
> > > are
> > > > > doing
> > > > > >> with them,
> > > > > >> what would you think disabling the warning instead of increasing
> > > the
> > > > > >> complexity
> > > > > >> in mbuf struct?
> > > > > > Okay, I will add -Wno-zero-length-bounds to the compiler
> > > toolchain
> > > > > flags.
> > > > >
> > > > > This would be my preference but I would like to get more input, can
> > > you
> > > > > please
> > > > > for more comments before changing the implementation in case there
> > > are
> > > > > some
> > > > > strong opinion on it?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have some input to this discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Let me repeat what Gavin's GCC reference states: Declaring zero-
> > > length
> > > > arrays [...] as interior members of structure objects [...] is
> > > discouraged.
> > > >
> > > > Why would we do something that the compiler documentation says is
> > > > discouraged? I think the problem (i.e. using discouraged techniques)
> > > should
> > > > be fixed, not the symptom (i.e. getting warnings about using
> > > discouraged
> > > > techniques).
> > > >
> > > > Compiler warnings are here to help, and in my experience they are
> > > actually
> > > > very helpful, although avoiding them often requires somewhat more
> > > > verbose source code. Disabling this warning not only affects this
> > > file, but
> > > > disables warnings about potential bugs in other source code too.
> > > >
> > > > Generally, disabling compiler warnings is a slippery slope. It would
> > > be
> > > > optimal if DPDK could be compiled with -Wall, and it would probably
> > > reduce
> > > > the number of released bugs too.
> > > >
> > > > With that said, sometimes the optimal solution has to give way for
> > > the
> > > > practical solution. And this is a core file, so we should thread
> > > lightly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As for an alternative solution, perhaps we can get rid of the MARKERs
> > > in the
> > > > struct and #define them instead. Not as elegant as Gavin's suggested
> > > union
> > > > based solution, but it might bring inspiration...
> > > >
> > > > struct rte_mbuf {
> > > >     ...
> > > >     } __rte_aligned(sizeof(rte_iova_t));
> > > >
> > > >     uint16_t data_off;
> > > >     ...
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > #define rte_mbuf_rearm_data(m) ((uint64_t *)m->data_off)
> > >
> > > This does not work out, it generates new errors:
> > > /root/dpdk/build/include/rte_mbuf_core.h:485:33: error: dereferencing
> > > type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules [-Werror=strict-
> > > aliasing]
> > >   485 | #define rte_mbuf_rearm_data(m) ((uint64_t *)&m->data_off)
> > >
> >
> > OK. Then Bruce's suggestion probably won't work either.
> >
> > I found this article about strict aliasing:
> https://gist.github.com/shafik/848ae25ee209f698763cffee272a58f8
> >
> > The article basically says that the union based method (i.e. your original
> suggestion) is valid C (but not C++) and is the common solution.
> >
> > Alternatives have now been discussed and tested, so we should all support
> your original suggestion, which seems to be the only correct and viable solution.
> >
> > Please go ahead with that, and then someone should update the SFC PMD
> accordingly.
> >
> > Furthermore, I think that Stephen's suggestion about getting rid of the
> markers all together is good thinking, but it would require updating a lot of
> PMDs accordingly. So please also consider removing other markers that can be
> removed without affecting a whole bunch of other files.
> >
> 
> Does it still give errors if we don't have the cast in the macro?

Yes the errors persist if we have the cast in dereferencing.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-13  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-03 16:27 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1] " Gavin Hu
2020-03-04 12:32 ` Kevin Traynor
2020-03-07 14:52   ` Gavin Hu
2020-03-07 15:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Gavin Hu
2020-03-09  8:55   ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-03-09  9:45     ` Gavin Hu
2020-03-09 11:29       ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-03-09 13:30         ` Morten Brørup
2020-03-09 14:16           ` Richardson, Bruce
2020-03-09 14:50             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] mbuf: replace zero-length markerwith " Morten Brørup
2020-03-11  7:50           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] mbuf: replace zero-length marker with " Gavin Hu
2020-03-11  9:04             ` Morten Brørup
2020-03-11 12:07               ` Bruce Richardson
2020-03-13  7:36                 ` Gavin Hu [this message]
2020-03-13  9:22                 ` Gavin Hu
2020-04-07 17:13                   ` Kevin Traynor
2020-04-08 15:04                     ` Gavin Hu
2020-04-08 15:22                       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " David Marchand
2020-04-09  9:48                         ` Gavin Hu
2020-04-09 10:49                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-04-09 16:09                             ` Ray Kinsella
2020-04-11  2:50                             ` Gavin Hu
2020-05-14 13:24                         ` Kevin Traynor
2020-03-09 15:47     ` [dpdk-dev] " Stephen Hemminger

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