From: Feifei Wang <Feifei.Wang2@arm.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
"mb@smartsharesystems.com" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
nd <nd@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v5 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 02:48:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AS8PR08MB77182DAA5645FA49959616ADC8929@AS8PR08MB7718.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230330080448.5a73a5d3@hermes.local>
Thanks for the reviewing.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 11:05 PM
> To: Feifei Wang <Feifei.Wang2@arm.com>
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru;
> mb@smartsharesystems.com; nd <nd@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx
>
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 14:29:36 +0800
> Feifei Wang <feifei.wang2@arm.com> wrote:
>
> > Currently, the transmit side frees the buffers into the lcore cache
> > and the receive side allocates buffers from the lcore cache. The
> > transmit side typically frees 32 buffers resulting in 32*8=256B of
> > stores to lcore cache. The receive side allocates 32 buffers and
> > stores them in the receive side software ring, resulting in 32*8=256B
> > of stores and 256B of load from the lcore cache.
> >
> > This patch proposes a mechanism to avoid freeing to/allocating from
> > the lcore cache. i.e. the receive side will free the buffers from
> > transmit side directly into its software ring. This will avoid the
> > 256B of loads and stores introduced by the lcore cache. It also frees
> > up the cache lines used by the lcore cache. And we can call this mode
> > as buffer recycle mode.
>
>
> My naive reading of this is that lcore cache update is slow on ARM so you are
> introducing yet another cache. Perhaps a better solution would be to figure
> out/optimize the lcore cache to work better.
From my point of view, 'recycle buffer' is a strategic optimization. It reduces the operation
of a buffer. Not only arm, but also x86 and other architecture can benefit from this. For example,
we can see x86 sse path performance improvement in cover letter test results.
>
> Adding another layer of abstraction is not going to help everyone and the
> implementation you chose requires modifications to drivers to get it to work.
>
We did not change the original driver mechanism. Recycle buffer can be looked
at a feature for pmd, if the user needs higher performance, he/she can choose to
call the API in the application to enable it.
> In current form, this is not acceptable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-03 2:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-24 16:46 [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2021-12-24 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] net/i40e: enable direct re-arm mode Feifei Wang
2021-12-24 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] ethdev: add API for " Feifei Wang
2021-12-24 19:38 ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-12-26 9:49 ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2021-12-26 10:31 ` Morten Brørup
2021-12-24 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] net/i40e: add direct re-arm mode internal API Feifei Wang
2021-12-24 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] examples/l3fwd: give an example for direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2021-12-26 10:25 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Morten Brørup
2021-12-28 6:55 ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-01-18 15:51 ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-01-18 16:53 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-01-18 17:27 ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-27 5:24 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-01-27 16:45 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-02-02 19:46 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-01-27 5:16 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-28 6:43 ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-28 6:52 ` Feifei Wang
2022-01-27 4:06 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-01-27 17:13 ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-28 11:29 ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-23 10:43 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx Feifei Wang
2023-03-23 10:43 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: add API for buffer recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-03-23 11:41 ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-29 2:16 ` Feifei Wang
2023-03-23 10:43 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] net/i40e: implement recycle buffer mode Feifei Wang
2023-03-23 10:43 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 6:29 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 6:29 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] ethdev: add API for buffer recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 7:19 ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-30 9:31 ` Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 15:15 ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-30 15:58 ` Morten Brørup
2023-04-26 6:59 ` Feifei Wang
2023-04-19 14:46 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-04-26 7:29 ` Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 6:29 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] net/i40e: implement recycle buffer mode Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 6:29 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-04-19 14:46 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-04-26 7:36 ` Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 15:04 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx Stephen Hemminger
2023-04-03 2:48 ` Feifei Wang [this message]
2023-04-19 14:56 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-04-25 7:57 ` Feifei Wang
2023-05-25 9:45 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue to Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-05-25 9:45 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-05-25 15:08 ` Morten Brørup
2023-05-31 6:10 ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-05 12:53 ` Константин Ананьев
2023-06-06 2:55 ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-06 7:10 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-06-06 7:31 ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-06 8:34 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-06-07 0:00 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-06-12 3:25 ` Feifei Wang
2023-05-25 9:45 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-06-05 13:02 ` Константин Ананьев
2023-06-06 3:16 ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-06 7:18 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-06-06 7:58 ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-06 8:27 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-06-12 3:05 ` Feifei Wang
2023-05-25 9:45 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-05-25 9:45 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-06-05 13:08 ` Константин Ананьев
2023-06-06 6:32 ` Feifei Wang
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