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From: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>
To: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Ivan Malov <Ivan.Malov@oktetlabs.ru>,
	Eli Britstein <elibr@nvidia.com>,
	Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@ovn.org>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, Smadar Fuks <smadarf@marvell.com>,
	Hyong Youb Kim <hyonkim@cisco.com>,
	Kishore Padmanabha <kishore.padmanabha@broadcom.com>,
	Ajit Khaparde <ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>, John Daley <johndale@cisco.com>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH] ethdev: clarify flow action PORT ID semantics
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 12:08:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BL1PR12MB533593EE3EB36A2D77B2BE6AD6389@BL1PR12MB5335.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8e0d8c5-5e4c-531f-67cc-4477e6029042@oktetlabs.ru>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
> semantics
> 
> On 6/7/21 11:28 AM, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > 03/06/2021 11:55, Andrew Rybchenko:
> >> On 6/3/21 12:18 PM, Ori Kam wrote:
> >>> Sorry but OVS got it right, this is the idea to send packet to the
> >>> VF not to the representor, I think that our first discussion should
> >>> be what is a representor, I know that there are a lot threads about it but
> it is steel unclear.
> >>
> >> Yes, really unclear. I'd like to highlight again that the problem is
> >> not with representors only (as described and discussed in the
> >> thread).
> >>
> >>> From my understanding representor is a shadow of a VF This shadow
> >>> has two functionalities:
> >>> 1. data
> >>> It should receive any packet that was sent from the VF and was not
> >>> routed to any other destination. And vise versa any traffic sent on the
> representor.
> >>> should arrive to the corresponding VF.
> >>> What use case do you see for sending a packet to the representor?
> >>>
> >>> 2. control
> >>> allow to modify the VF from DPDK application.
> >>>
> >>> Regarding the 1 point of the data, I don't see any sense if routing traffic
> to representor.
> >>> While on point 2 control their maybe some cases that we want to
> >>> configure the representor itself and not the VF for example changing
> mtu.
> >>
> >> IMO if so there is a big inconsistency here with statistics (just an
> >> example, which is simply to discuss).
> >> On one hand packet/byte stats should say how much data is
> >> received/sent by the DPDK application via the port (yes, shadow, but
> >> still an ethdev port).
> >> On the other hand you say that it is a shadow and it should return VF
> >> stats.
> >
> > I see emails don't work well to conclude on how to manage representors.
> > I propose working in live meetings so we can try to align our views on
> > a virtual whiteboard and interactively ask questions.
> > Participants in those meetings could work on documenting what is the
> > view of a representor as a first step.
> > Second step, it should be easier to discuss the API.
> >
> > If you agree, I will plan a first meeting where we can discuss what is
> > a representor in our opinions.
> > The meeting time would be 4pm UTC.
> > For the day, I would propose this Thursday 10 if it works for
> > everybody involved.
> >
> 
> OK for me.
O.K. for me too.
Ori

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-07 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-01 11:14 Ivan Malov
2021-06-01 12:10 ` Ilya Maximets
2021-06-01 13:24   ` Eli Britstein
2021-06-01 14:35     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-01 14:44       ` Eli Britstein
2021-06-01 14:50         ` Ivan Malov
2021-06-01 14:53         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-02  9:57           ` Eli Britstein
2021-06-02 10:50             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-02 11:21               ` Eli Britstein
2021-06-02 11:57                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-02 12:36                 ` Ivan Malov
2021-06-03  9:18                   ` Ori Kam
2021-06-03  9:55                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-07  8:28                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-07  9:42                         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-07 12:08                           ` Ori Kam [this message]
2021-06-07 13:21                             ` Ilya Maximets
2021-06-07 16:07                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-08 16:13                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-08 16:32                                   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-08 18:49                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-09 14:31                                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-01 14:49     ` Ivan Malov
2021-06-01 14:28   ` Ivan Malov
2021-06-02 12:46     ` Ilya Maximets
2021-06-02 16:26       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-02 17:35         ` Ilya Maximets
2021-06-02 19:35           ` Ivan Malov
2021-06-03  9:29             ` Ilya Maximets
2021-06-03 10:33               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-03 11:05                 ` Ilya Maximets
2021-06-03 11:29               ` Ivan Malov
2021-06-07 19:27                 ` Ilya Maximets
2021-06-07 20:39                   ` Ivan Malov
2021-06-25 13:04       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-02 12:16   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-02 12:53     ` Ilya Maximets
2021-06-02 13:10     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-09-03  7:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1] " Andrew Rybchenko

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