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From: Luke Gorrie <luke@snabb.co>
To: Jim Thompson <jim@netgate.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] DPDK memcpy optimization
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:06:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA2XHbcG4kZzOiMibQhjRxjg_aCJpZ4djgXbQf=FECgZropbCw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53D2253B-DE20-486E-ADF0-DA02AAB1EF35@netgate.com>

Howdy!

This memcpy discussion is absolutely fascinating. Glad to be a fly on the
wall!

On 21 January 2015 at 22:25, Jim Thompson <jim@netgate.com> wrote:

>
> The differences with DPDK are that a) entire cores (including the AVX/SSE
> units and even AES-NI (FPU) are dedicated to DPDK, and b) DPDK is a library,
> and the resulting networking applications are exactly that, applications.
> The "operating system” is now a control plane.
>
>
Here is another thought: when is it time to start thinking of packet copy
as a cheap unit-time operation?

Packets are shrinking exponentially when measured in:

- Cache lines
- Cache load/store operations needed to copy
- Number of vector move instructions needed to copy

because those units are all based on exponentially growing quantities,
while the byte size of packets stays the same for many applications.

So when is it time to stop caring?

(Are we already there, even, for certain conditions? How about Haswell CPU,
data already exclusively in our L1 cache, start and end both known to be
cache-line-aligned?)

Cheers,
-Luke (eagerly awaiting arrival of Haswell server...)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-22  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-19  1:53 zhihong.wang
2015-01-19  1:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] app/test: Disabled VTA for memcpy test in app/test/Makefile zhihong.wang
2015-01-19  1:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] app/test: Removed unnecessary test cases in test_memcpy.c zhihong.wang
2015-01-19  1:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] app/test: Extended test coverage in test_memcpy_perf.c zhihong.wang
2015-01-19  1:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] lib/librte_eal: Optimized memcpy in arch/x86/rte_memcpy.h for both SSE and AVX platforms zhihong.wang
2015-01-20 17:15   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-01-20 19:16     ` Neil Horman
2015-01-21  3:18       ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-25 20:02     ` Jim Thompson
2015-01-26 14:43   ` Wodkowski, PawelX
2015-01-27  5:12     ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-19 13:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] DPDK memcpy optimization Neil Horman
2015-01-20  3:01   ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-20 15:11     ` Neil Horman
2015-01-20 16:14       ` Bruce Richardson
2015-01-21  3:44         ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-21 11:40           ` Bruce Richardson
2015-01-21 12:02           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-21 12:38             ` Neil Horman
2015-01-23  3:26               ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-21 12:36           ` Marc Sune
2015-01-21 13:02             ` Bruce Richardson
2015-01-21 13:21               ` Marc Sune
2015-01-21 13:26                 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-01-21 19:49                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-01-21 20:54                     ` Neil Horman
2015-01-21 21:25                       ` Jim Thompson
2015-01-22  0:53                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-01-22  9:06                         ` Luke Gorrie [this message]
2015-01-22 13:29                           ` Jay Rolette
2015-01-22 18:27                             ` Luke Gorrie
2015-01-22 19:36                               ` Jay Rolette
2015-01-22 18:21                       ` EDMISON, Kelvin (Kelvin)
2015-01-27  8:22                         ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-28 21:48                           ` EDMISON, Kelvin (Kelvin)
2015-01-29  1:53                             ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-23  6:52                   ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-26 18:29                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-27  1:42                       ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-27 11:30                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-27 12:19                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-28  2:06                             ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-25 14:50 ` Luke Gorrie
2015-01-26  1:30   ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-26  8:03     ` Luke Gorrie
2015-01-27  7:19       ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-01-27 13:57         ` [dpdk-dev] [snabb-devel] " Luke Gorrie
2015-01-29  3:42 ` [dpdk-dev] " Fu, JingguoX

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