From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk0-f48.google.com (mail-vk0-f48.google.com [209.85.213.48]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8644A29D6 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 23:18:39 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-vk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id k196so3484441vka.0 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:18:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infiniteio-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=ZYR29qR5m6hD4lpbCTY8SPy+Cb8DjYUm+Tsb9I0cLIg=; b=oF9+O9e/Q8jehs01tIdVuz1HM31RiByYwPuPKPghzinvaMdWw12DGrbMrPAl4/xXyj wr8mYPRoA8KXphqo+fo/TPUReXvslFvwZ6+PjLyQ16HbAT2Vtd3IG74EvkudNOyAF4dt thIGvnmD7UUhCP7XZvJPYU918q7gZW/Y8nqhpfuxK6BTFwGnJhiqDA2RX5kDxDansXkC EKL9Xj7xW59bUALKne/Rqu1KIUZLUbxW7vx3jtfc5oSBfBm3FOx5dHz1PBJqBZqpaUWP qWvRurLWaPHzm6NKlQLUOGkiekatCBYY0Niw0/C+ZN9hc2tyBMsGqbVQzIdxy/edzJ4I tTyw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=ZYR29qR5m6hD4lpbCTY8SPy+Cb8DjYUm+Tsb9I0cLIg=; b=fnr0ljCExnEai/vf1PrUIuyR9K8vyPXje7WHz1vG0gpAzDQKR+8+kbo6iYjkehx7QS AYQt/O5hMsCqCoHkcsK1YVqpgNP3+mIuwHSIDHd1FcFF7nCMI79eRITojnKuLrj2nTfV hlvxY7/Rvy6RfJDMx+hwg1mpMvavV6x0wCI1RGymnJEBpg2+fu4omvrR/dD8BdGrvpZc plv4keM+TjPhskT28WMFqqxSmvAHVoecYr37cqNK3+snuifJ8xVNlkuDtbQH5HGBpGCH m79Qq2x9BxaTEML29rlJphCjM5BJH6xzoKcqrObQYTpZjfkCa+A9X396qkTpl1Apqlxf HjUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJ8bFexCIOjKukjHHqTlg2OIzww3hMg2Sma1/zY0Z0rbNjpRk0WE+/2bCqkA6jvhnUsPRcc3IEpsGXCxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.173.8 with SMTP id w8mr22324997vke.42.1456957118985; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.96.1 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:18:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160301180255.3ef1a17e@xeon-e3> References: <1453911849-16562-1-git-send-email-ferruh.yigit@intel.com> <56D420E5.9010802@intel.com> <56D42462.3020905@scylladb.com> <1945473.Tiatd2m80T@xps13> <20160301180255.3ef1a17e@xeon-e3> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 16:18:38 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jay Rolette To: Stephen Hemminger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.15 Cc: DPDK , Avi Kivity Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: patches and discussions about DPDK List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 22:18:39 -0000 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Stephen Hemminger < stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:33:25 -0600 > Jay Rolette wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:06 AM, Thomas Monjalon < > thomas.monjalon@6wind.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I totally agree with Avi's comments. > > > This topic is really important for the future of DPDK. > > > So I think we must give some time to continue the discussion > > > and have netdev involved in the choices done. > > > As a consequence, these series should not be merged in the release > 16.04. > > > Thanks for continuing the work. > > > > > > > I know you guys are very interested in getting rid of the out-of-tree > > drivers, but please do not block incremental improvements to DPDK in the > > meantime. Ferruh's patch improves the usability of KNI. Don't throw out > > good and useful enhancements just because it isn't where you want to be > in > > the end. > > > > I'd like to see these be merged. > > > > Jay > > The code is really not ready. I am okay with cooperative development > but the current code needs to go into a staging type tree. > No compatibility, no ABI guarantees, more of an RFC. > Don't want vendors building products with it then screaming when it > gets rebuilt/reworked/scrapped. > That's fair. To be clear, it wasn't my intent for code that wasn't baked yet to be merged. The main point of my comment was that I think it is important not to halt incremental improvements to existing capabilities (KNI in this case) just because there are philosophical or directional changes that the community would like to make longer-term. Bird in the hand vs. two in the bush... Jay