Re: [dpdk-dev] 4 Traffic classes per Pipe limitation

[Ariel Rodriguez <arodriguez@callistech.com>]

     Ok thats give the reason i need, yes i could change the number of bits
of ,for example , pipe size which is 20 bytes but we need around a million
of pipe (the telecom has a million of concurent subscribers). Thank you so
much, i have to think about this, for the moment i believe we will use the
4 traffic classes and group the differents protocols to a traffic class.
     Maybe later i will ask some questions about the traffic metering.

Thank you again , best regards,

Ariel Horacio Rodriguez, Callis Technologies.








On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Stephen Hemminger <
stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:50:34 -0200
> Ariel Rodriguez <arodriguez@callistech.com> wrote:
>
> >          Thanks for the answer, your explanation was perfect.
> Unfortunally
> > , the client requirements are those, we need at traffic control level
> > around 64 traffic metering controlers (traffic classes) at subscriber
> level.
>
> I think you maybe confused by the Intel QoS naming. It is better to
> think about it as 3 different classification levels and not get too hung
> up about the naming.
>
> The way to do what you want that is with 64 different 'pipes'.
> In our usage:
>         subport => VLAN
>         pipe    => subscriber matched by tuple
>         traffic class => mapping from DSCP to TC
>
>
> >           Each subscriber have a global plan rate (each pipe have the
> same
> > token bucket configuration), inside that plan there are different rules
> for
> > the traffic (traffic classes). For Example, facebook traffic, twitter
> > traffic, whatsapp traffic have different plan rates lower than the plan
> > global rate but different than the others protocols. We could group those
> > in one traffic class, but still the 4 traffic classes is a strong
> > limitation for us, beacause each protocol mapped to a traffic class share
> > the same configuration (facebook traffic, twitter traffic have had the
> same
> > rate and more, they compete for the  same traffic class rate).
> >           We have to compete against cisco bandwith control solution and
> at
> > least we need to offer the same features. The cisco solution its a DPI
> but
> > also a traffic control solution, its permit priorization of traffic and
> > manage the congestion inside the network per subscriber and per
> application
> > service. So apperently the dpdk qos scheduller doesnt fit for our needs.
> >           Anyway, i still doesnt understand the traffic classes
> limitation.
> > Inside the dpdk code of the qos scheduler i saw this:
> >
> > /** Number of queues per pipe traffic class. Cannot be changed. */
> > #define RTE_SCHED_QUEUES_PER_TRAFFIC_CLASS    4
>
> >          I follow where the code use that define and except for the
> struct
> > rte_sched_port_hierarchy where its mandatory a bitwise field of two
> (0...3)
> > , i dont see where is the limitation here (except for performance). Its
> > worth to change the code to support more than 4 traffic classes, well i
> > could try to change the code more precisely jejeje.  I just want to know
> if
> > there are another limitation than a design desicion of that number. I
> dont
> > want to make the effort for nothing maybe you guys can help me to
> > understand why the limitation.
> >           I strongly use the dpdk solution for feed our dpi solution, i
> > wont change that because work greats!!! but its difficult to develop a
> > traffic control managment from scratch and integrated with the dpdk in a
> > clean way without touching the dpdk api, you guys just done that with the
> > qos scheduler, i dont want to reinvent the wheel.
> >           Again thank you for the patience, and for your expertise.
>
>
> The limitation on number's of TC (and pipes) comes from the number of
> bits available. Since the QoS code overloads the 32 bit RSS field in
> the mbuf there isn't enough bits to a lot. But then again if you add lots
> of pipes or subports the memory footprint gets huge.
>
> Since it is open source, you could reduce the number of bits for one
> field and increase the other. But having lots of priority classes
> would lead to poor performance and potential starvation.
>