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From: Marc <marcdevel@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Cc: "Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>,
	Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org,  "Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Tan, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>,
	 Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	 Christian Ehrhardt <christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com>,
	Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>,
	 Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] Yet another option for DPDK options
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:19:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAExC=0QnX+twj0e5SKviJPmWxbMJRYYRje3krX9znERbOPKFsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1809080.StTKWmco5F@xps13>

On 1 June 2016 at 20:51, Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com> wrote:

> Hi Keith,
>
> I'll try to bring more context to this discussion below.
>
> 2016-06-01 15:00, Wiles, Keith:
> > Started from the link below, but did not want to highjack the thread.
> > http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2016-June/040021.html
> >
> > I was thinking about this problem from a user perspective and command
> > line options are very difficult to manage specifically when you have
> > a large number of options as we have in dpdk.
>
> The user uses an application.
> It is up to the application to let users do some configuration.
>
> > I see all of these options as a type of database of information for
> > the DPDK and the application, because the application command line
> > options are also getting very complex as well.
>
> DPDK is a collection of libraries.
> There is no command line options in a library.
> So we should not be talking about such issue. But...
>
> ... configuration of the DPDK libraries must be improved.
> We need some clean API to let the application configure a lot of things
> at runtime (during initialization or after).
> Ideally the API should not use an argc/argv format.
>
> We also have a lot of applications for tests or examples which use a
> common configuration scheme based on command line options.
> It is only for test and demonstration purpose. So it is not so important
> and must not be complex to maintain.
> I also think that we should avoid having to modify a configuration file
> for test applications. I like launching a freshly built testpmd with a
> copy-pasted command line without having to create a temporary
> configuration file.
>
> Instead of wrapping a messy configuration interface, we should proceed
> with this steps (in this order):
> - implement clean configuration API
> - move command line options parsing in a separate library
> - implement an alternative to the options parsing library, as an example
> - remove the options parsing library if the alternative is better
>
>
Fully agree on all that you say. To me:

* +1 on staying away from XML and JSON.

* INI is an option, but if there is the need of hierarchical another option
is libconfig
(
http://www.hyperrealm.com/libconfig/libconfig_manual.html#Configuration-Files)
that to me is more readable and user-friendly than JSON (not to mention
XML).

* As you, Thomas say, and as it has been discussed previously [1]; it would
be good that eal_init was not depending on argv and had a _simple_, and
with reasonable defaults, struct-based init API, and build wrapper
libraries on top of that, one being the command-line and another being a
configuration file (although they would be connected somehow).

Marc

[1] http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2013-August/000374.html

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-02  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-01 15:00 Wiles, Keith
2016-06-01 15:46 ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-01 16:08   ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-01 15:58 ` Jay Rolette
2016-06-01 16:18   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-01 16:21     ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-01 18:13     ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-01 18:31     ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-06-03 10:07     ` Yerden Zhumabekov
2016-06-01 18:51 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-02  9:19   ` Marc [this message]
2016-06-02  7:56 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-06-02 10:41 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-02 13:19   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-02 13:53     ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-02 17:11       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-02 19:33         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-02 19:41         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-02 20:08           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-02 20:53             ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-02 22:34               ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03  2:17                 ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-03  9:57                   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-03 10:06                     ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-03 12:03                   ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 10:29             ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-03 11:01               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-03 11:50                 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 12:01                   ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-03 12:53                     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-03 14:31                       ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-03 16:04                         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 16:10                           ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 17:44                           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 18:29                             ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 18:38                               ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 18:52                                 ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-03 19:00                                   ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 19:07                                     ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 19:18                                       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 19:23                                         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 19:28                                           ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-03 21:42                                           ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-03 21:41                                         ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-05  0:19                                           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 21:40                                       ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-03 21:38                                   ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-03 12:14                   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-02 20:51           ` Matthew Hall

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