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* [dpdk-dev] fail to bind '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' to IGB_UIO driver
@ 2014-05-14 14:27 Helmut Sim
  2014-05-14 14:45 ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Helmut Sim @ 2014-05-14 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev

Hi,

I am new to dpdk.
I built the dpdk-1.6.0r1 and even was able to compile the apps.
Then I am trying to bind my NIC to the dpdk application:
#modprobe uio
#
#insmod x86_64-default-linuxapp-gcc/kmod/igb_uio.ko
#
# ./tools/pci_unbind.py --status

Network devices using IGB_UIO driver
====================================
<none>

Network devices using kernel driver
===================================
0000:02:00.0 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
if=eth0 drv=r8169 unused=<none> *Active*
0000:05:0c.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=p3p1 drv=e1000
unused=<none> *Active*
0000:05:0d.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=p3p2 drv=e1000
unused=<none>

Other network devices
=====================
<none>

# ./tools/pci_unbind.py --bind=igb_uio 05:0d.0
Error: bind failed for 0000:05:0d.0 - Cannot bind to driver igb_uio
(/sys/bus/pci/drivers/igb_uio/bind)
Error: unbind failed for 0000:05:0d.0 - Cannot open
/sys/bus/pci/drivers//unbind
#

unlike previous cases I went over in this forum, this NIC supposed to be
supported (or maybe i read it incorrectly???):

# cat lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h | grep 82541GI
#define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI                  0x1076
#define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_LF               0x107C
#define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_MOBILE           0x1077

my machine data (i am not using any visualization at the moment):
# uname -a
Linux helmut 3.11.0-18-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 18 21:11:14 UTC 2014
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


any idea why the unbind failes?


Thanks!

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* Re: [dpdk-dev] fail to bind '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' to IGB_UIO driver
  2014-05-14 14:27 [dpdk-dev] fail to bind '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' to IGB_UIO driver Helmut Sim
@ 2014-05-14 14:45 ` Thomas Monjalon
  2014-05-14 14:53   ` Helmut Sim
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Monjalon @ 2014-05-14 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Helmut Sim; +Cc: dev

Hi,

2014-05-14 17:27, Helmut Sim:
> unlike previous cases I went over in this forum, this NIC supposed to be
> supported (or maybe i read it incorrectly???):
> 
> # cat lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h | grep 82541GI
> #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI                  0x1076
> #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_LF               0x107C
> #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_MOBILE           0x1077

This device is known but not supported.

You should use
	# grep 'RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL.*8254' lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h
	RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82540EM)
	RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_COPPER)
	RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_FIBER)
	RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_COPPER)
	RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_FIBER)
	RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_QUAD_COPPER)

The dedicated page for this information is:
	http://dpdk.org/doc/nics

You should try to enable this device in the code and see what happens.
Maybe that its support is straightforward.

Thanks for reporting
-- 
Thomas

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* Re: [dpdk-dev] fail to bind '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' to IGB_UIO driver
  2014-05-14 14:45 ` Thomas Monjalon
@ 2014-05-14 14:53   ` Helmut Sim
  2014-05-14 15:44     ` Helmut Sim
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Helmut Sim @ 2014-05-14 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Monjalon; +Cc: dev

Thanks Thomas for your quick answer.

Meantime I tried a different device, which is supported according to the
rule you mentioned.
it is a 82575EB but i got the exact same behavior.

# grep 'RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL.*82575'
lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h
RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_IGB(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82575EB_COPPER)
RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_IGB(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
E1000_DEV_ID_82575EB_FIBER_SERDES)
RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_IGB(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
E1000_DEV_ID_82575GB_QUAD_COPPER)


# ./tools/pci_unbind.py --status

Network devices using IGB_UIO driver
====================================
<none>

Network devices using kernel driver
===================================
0000:01:00.0 '82575EB Gigabit Network Connection' if=p1p1 drv=igb
unused=<none>
0000:01:00.1 '82575EB Gigabit Network Connection' if=p1p2 drv=igb
unused=<none>
0000:03:00.0 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
if=eth0 drv=r8169 unused=<none> *Active*
0000:06:0c.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=p3p1 drv=e1000
unused=<none> *Active*
0000:06:0d.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=rename6 drv=e1000
unused=<none>

Other network devices
=====================
<none>

# ./tools/pci_unbind.py --bind=igb_uio 01:00.0
Error: bind failed for 0000:01:00.0 - Cannot bind to driver igb_uio
(/sys/bus/pci/drivers/igb_uio/bind)
Error: unbind failed for 0000:01:00.0 - Cannot open
/sys/bus/pci/drivers//unbind

# ./tools/pci_unbind.py --status

Network devices using IGB_UIO driver
====================================
<none>

Network devices using kernel driver
===================================
0000:01:00.1 '82575EB Gigabit Network Connection' if=p1p2 drv=igb
unused=<none>
0000:03:00.0 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
if=eth0 drv=r8169 unused=<none> *Active*
0000:06:0c.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=p3p1 drv=e1000
unused=<none> *Active*
0000:06:0d.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=rename6 drv=e1000
unused=<none>

Other network devices
=====================
0000:01:00.0 '82575EB Gigabit Network Connection' unused=<none>

#

I guess something is wrong with my environment.
BTW I am running as a root.

and this is the objcts under the driver:
# ls -l /sys/bus/pci/drivers/igb_uio/
total 0
--w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:40 bind
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 May 14 17:48 module ->
../../../../module/igb_uio
--w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:48 new_id
--w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:48 remove_id
--w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:39 uevent
--w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:48 unbind


Thanks!



On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Thomas Monjalon
<thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2014-05-14 17:27, Helmut Sim:
> > unlike previous cases I went over in this forum, this NIC supposed to be
> > supported (or maybe i read it incorrectly???):
> >
> > # cat lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h | grep 82541GI
> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI                  0x1076
> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_LF               0x107C
> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_MOBILE           0x1077
>
> This device is known but not supported.
>
> You should use
>         # grep 'RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL.*8254'
> lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82540EM)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_COPPER)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_FIBER)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_COPPER)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_FIBER)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_QUAD_COPPER)
>
> The dedicated page for this information is:
>         http://dpdk.org/doc/nics
>
> You should try to enable this device in the code and see what happens.
> Maybe that its support is straightforward.
>
> Thanks for reporting
> --
> Thomas
>



On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Thomas Monjalon
<thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2014-05-14 17:27, Helmut Sim:
> > unlike previous cases I went over in this forum, this NIC supposed to be
> > supported (or maybe i read it incorrectly???):
> >
> > # cat lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h | grep 82541GI
> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI                  0x1076
> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_LF               0x107C
> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_MOBILE           0x1077
>
> This device is known but not supported.
>
> You should use
>         # grep 'RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL.*8254'
> lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82540EM)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_COPPER)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_FIBER)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_COPPER)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_FIBER)
>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_QUAD_COPPER)
>
> The dedicated page for this information is:
>         http://dpdk.org/doc/nics
>
> You should try to enable this device in the code and see what happens.
> Maybe that its support is straightforward.
>
> Thanks for reporting
> --
> Thomas
>

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread

* Re: [dpdk-dev] fail to bind '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' to IGB_UIO driver
  2014-05-14 14:53   ` Helmut Sim
@ 2014-05-14 15:44     ` Helmut Sim
  2014-05-15 22:15       ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Helmut Sim @ 2014-05-14 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Monjalon; +Cc: dev

Hi Thomas,

I made the required change in order to support the 82541GI chipset and I
was able to bind it successfully to the igb_uio ==> thank for your advise.
however i am stll not able to bind the 82575EB... although it looks like it
is already supported ;(

I see there is a 82575EB_COPPER and a 82575EB_FIBER_SERDES, how can i tell
if mine is one of them?
it is a Dual Port PCI-E X4 Gigabit Server Adapter 575T (
http://www.winyao.com/en/product_view_20_117.html).

Thanks



On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Helmut Sim <simhelmut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Thomas for your quick answer.
>
> Meantime I tried a different device, which is supported according to the
> rule you mentioned.
> it is a 82575EB but i got the exact same behavior.
>
> # grep 'RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL.*82575'
> lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h
> RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_IGB(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82575EB_COPPER)
> RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_IGB(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82575EB_FIBER_SERDES)
> RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_IGB(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> E1000_DEV_ID_82575GB_QUAD_COPPER)
>
>
> # ./tools/pci_unbind.py --status
>
> Network devices using IGB_UIO driver
> ====================================
> <none>
>
> Network devices using kernel driver
> ===================================
> 0000:01:00.0 '82575EB Gigabit Network Connection' if=p1p1 drv=igb
> unused=<none>
> 0000:01:00.1 '82575EB Gigabit Network Connection' if=p1p2 drv=igb
> unused=<none>
> 0000:03:00.0 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
> if=eth0 drv=r8169 unused=<none> *Active*
> 0000:06:0c.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=p3p1 drv=e1000
> unused=<none> *Active*
> 0000:06:0d.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=rename6 drv=e1000
> unused=<none>
>
> Other network devices
> =====================
> <none>
>
> # ./tools/pci_unbind.py --bind=igb_uio 01:00.0
> Error: bind failed for 0000:01:00.0 - Cannot bind to driver igb_uio
> (/sys/bus/pci/drivers/igb_uio/bind)
> Error: unbind failed for 0000:01:00.0 - Cannot open
> /sys/bus/pci/drivers//unbind
>
>
> # ./tools/pci_unbind.py --status
>
> Network devices using IGB_UIO driver
> ====================================
> <none>
>
> Network devices using kernel driver
> ===================================
> 0000:01:00.1 '82575EB Gigabit Network Connection' if=p1p2 drv=igb
> unused=<none>
> 0000:03:00.0 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
> if=eth0 drv=r8169 unused=<none> *Active*
> 0000:06:0c.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=p3p1 drv=e1000
> unused=<none> *Active*
> 0000:06:0d.0 '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' if=rename6 drv=e1000
> unused=<none>
>
> Other network devices
> =====================
> 0000:01:00.0 '82575EB Gigabit Network Connection' unused=<none>
>
> #
>
> I guess something is wrong with my environment.
> BTW I am running as a root.
>
> and this is the objcts under the driver:
> # ls -l /sys/bus/pci/drivers/igb_uio/
> total 0
> --w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:40 bind
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 May 14 17:48 module ->
> ../../../../module/igb_uio
> --w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:48 new_id
> --w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:48 remove_id
> --w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:39 uevent
> --w------- 1 root root 4096 May 14 17:48 unbind
>
>
>  Thanks!
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Thomas Monjalon <
> thomas.monjalon@6wind.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2014-05-14 17:27, Helmut Sim:
>> > unlike previous cases I went over in this forum, this NIC supposed to be
>> > supported (or maybe i read it incorrectly???):
>> >
>> > # cat lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h | grep 82541GI
>> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI                  0x1076
>> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_LF               0x107C
>> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_MOBILE           0x1077
>>
>> This device is known but not supported.
>>
>> You should use
>>         # grep 'RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL.*8254'
>> lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82540EM)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_COPPER)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_FIBER)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_COPPER)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_FIBER)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_QUAD_COPPER)
>>
>> The dedicated page for this information is:
>>         http://dpdk.org/doc/nics
>>
>> You should try to enable this device in the code and see what happens.
>> Maybe that its support is straightforward.
>>
>> Thanks for reporting
>> --
>> Thomas
>>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Thomas Monjalon <
> thomas.monjalon@6wind.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2014-05-14 17:27, Helmut Sim:
>> > unlike previous cases I went over in this forum, this NIC supposed to be
>> > supported (or maybe i read it incorrectly???):
>> >
>> > # cat lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h | grep 82541GI
>> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI                  0x1076
>> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_LF               0x107C
>> > #define E1000_DEV_ID_82541GI_MOBILE           0x1077
>>
>> This device is known but not supported.
>>
>> You should use
>>         # grep 'RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL.*8254'
>> lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_pci_dev_ids.h
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, E1000_DEV_ID_82540EM)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_COPPER)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82545EM_FIBER)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_COPPER)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_FIBER)
>>         RTE_PCI_DEV_ID_DECL_EM(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
>> E1000_DEV_ID_82546EB_QUAD_COPPER)
>>
>> The dedicated page for this information is:
>>         http://dpdk.org/doc/nics
>>
>> You should try to enable this device in the code and see what happens.
>> Maybe that its support is straightforward.
>>
>> Thanks for reporting
>> --
>> Thomas
>>
>
>

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* Re: [dpdk-dev] fail to bind '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' to IGB_UIO driver
  2014-05-14 15:44     ` Helmut Sim
@ 2014-05-15 22:15       ` Thomas Monjalon
  2014-05-18 14:07         ` Helmut Sim
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Monjalon @ 2014-05-15 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Helmut Sim; +Cc: dev

Hi Sim,

2014-05-14 18:44, Helmut Sim:
> I made the required change in order to support the 82541GI chipset and I
> was able to bind it successfully to the igb_uio

Don't hesitate to submit a patch after having validated that it's working 
well.

Thanks
-- 
Thomas

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread

* Re: [dpdk-dev] fail to bind '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' to IGB_UIO driver
  2014-05-15 22:15       ` Thomas Monjalon
@ 2014-05-18 14:07         ` Helmut Sim
  2014-05-19 15:12           ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Helmut Sim @ 2014-05-18 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Monjalon; +Cc: dev

I am on my way to validate it...

Is there a pre-defined test or checklist for validating a NIC?

Thanks


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Thomas Monjalon
<thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>wrote:

> Hi Sim,
>
> 2014-05-14 18:44, Helmut Sim:
> > I made the required change in order to support the 82541GI chipset and I
> > was able to bind it successfully to the igb_uio
>
> Don't hesitate to submit a patch after having validated that it's working
> well.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Thomas
>

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread

* Re: [dpdk-dev] fail to bind '82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' to IGB_UIO driver
  2014-05-18 14:07         ` Helmut Sim
@ 2014-05-19 15:12           ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Monjalon @ 2014-05-19 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Helmut Sim; +Cc: dev

Hi,

2014-05-18 17:07, Helmut Sim:
> <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>wrote:
> > 2014-05-14 18:44, Helmut Sim:
> > > I made the required change in order to support the 82541GI chipset and I
> > > was able to bind it successfully to the igb_uio
> > 
> > Don't hesitate to submit a patch after having validated that it's working
> > well.
> 
> I am on my way to validate it...
> 
> Is there a pre-defined test or checklist for validating a NIC?

The dedicated tool is testpmd.
You should find various options to test all features.

-- 
Thomas

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