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Subject: DTS WG Meeting Minutes - July 31, 2025
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July 31, 2025
Attendees
* Patrick Robb
* Luca Vizzarro
* Paul Szczepanek
* Andrew Bailey

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Minutes

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General Discussion
* RFC deadline for 25.11 development is August 31.

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Patch discussions
* RSS:
   * Updated and rebased. Ivan=E2=80=99s comments have been addressed.
   * Patrick Robband Andrew Baileyto review this and test it on lab devices
(must include mellanox)
* dts: add file management
   * Patrick Robbto review
   * Provides abstraction which defines a file on TG, SUT, or DTS engine
system
* There are some stylistic differences between how testsuite docstrings are
written
   * Currently, the only =E2=80=9Crule=E2=80=9D is that testsuite developer=
s write =E2=80=9Csteps=E2=80=9D
and =E2=80=9Cverify=E2=80=9D section
      * Steps and Verify should also have an empty line included between
them
   * Otherwise, there are various discrepancies (example, ordered vs
unordered list for providing =E2=80=9Csteps=E2=80=9D) and we need to provid=
e more
comprehensive rules to bring the testsuite docstrings in alignment
   * Also some missing =E2=80=9CAttributes=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9CReturns=E2=
=80=9D sections for various class
and method docstrings
   * There is major duplication between module, class, and method
docstrings in each testsuite.
      * Module docstring should be a few sentences briefly identifying the
testsuite and the DPDK functionality validated in the testsuite
      * Testsuite class can just be a stock phrase to satisfy the linter,
like =E2=80=9Ctestsuite class=E2=80=9D
      * Testcase docstrings contain the actual details
* Thomas Wilks is looking through testsuites and looking for problems with
code style. We should provide a code style guide going forward.
   * Example: Some functions which return None have no typehinted return,
when technically they should return None like =E2=80=9C -> None =E2=80=9C
* Testcase naming convention
   * The old requirement of prefixing testcases with =E2=80=9Ctest_=E2=80=
=9D is still
present in some testcases. Although it=E2=80=99s not a =E2=80=9Cproblem=E2=
=80=9D for testcases to
be named in this way, we should stop doing this going forward and do a 1
time re-naming of all the existing testcases that are named in this way.
* Docs builds:
   * We have some private methods which are not actually made private (they
are not prefixed with an underscore), so these methods are showing up in
the testsuite docs unnecessarily.
* Patrick Robb and luca.vizzarro@arm.comreviewed change requested patches
   * Confirmed all of those patches are tracked
   * It may be better to not use the change requested status at all. Just
provide comments on series, and let the submitter change the series to
=E2=80=9Csuperseded=E2=80=9D when they send a new version.

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Bugzilla discussions
* Reviewed bugzilla tickets:
   *
https://bugs.dpdk.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=3Dcomponent%3Adts&list_id=3D9=
444

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Any other business
* Andrew at UNH is looking at TG driver binding, which was previously
removed from DTS.
* Intel CI Docs build had a failure for some DTS docs on a patch applied to
next-dts
   * Need to remove the autodoc pydantic dependency from the standard docs
build, which Luca is going to do
* Next meeting is Aug 14, 2025

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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>General Discussion<br>* RF=
C deadline for 25.11 development is August 31.<br><br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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pancies (example, ordered vs unordered list for providing =E2=80=9Csteps=E2=
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nd method docstrings<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* There is major duplication between m=
odule, class, and method docstrings in each testsuite.<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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stsuite and the DPDK functionality validated in the testsuite<br>=C2=A0 =C2=
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gh testsuites and looking for problems with code style. We should provide a=
 code style guide going forward.<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Example: Some functions =
which return None have no typehinted return, when technically they should r=
eturn None like =E2=80=9C -&gt; None =E2=80=9C<br>* Testcase naming convent=
ion<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* The old requirement of prefixing testcases with =E2=
=80=9Ctest_=E2=80=9D is still present in some testcases. Although it=E2=80=
=99s not a =E2=80=9Cproblem=E2=80=9D for testcases to be named in this way,=
 we should stop doing this going forward and do a 1 time re-naming of all t=
he existing testcases that are named in this way.<br>* Docs builds:<br>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0* We have some private methods which are not actually made privat=
e (they are not prefixed with an underscore), so these methods are showing =
up in the testsuite docs unnecessarily.<br>* Patrick Robb and luca.vizzarro=
@arm.comreviewed change requested patches<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Confirmed all o=
f those patches are tracked<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* It may be better to not use t=
he change requested status at all. Just provide comments on series, and let=
 the submitter change the series to =E2=80=9Csuperseded=E2=80=9D when they =
send a new version.<br><br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D<br>Bugzilla discussions<br>* Reviewed bugzilla tickets:<br>=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0* <a href=3D"https://bugs.dpdk.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=3Dcompone=
nt%3Adts&amp;list_id=3D9444">https://bugs.dpdk.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=
=3Dcomponent%3Adts&amp;list_id=3D9444</a><br><br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>Any other business<br>* Andrew at UNH =
is looking at TG driver binding, which was previously removed from DTS. <br=
>* Intel CI Docs build had a failure for some DTS docs on a patch applied t=
o next-dts<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Need to remove the autodoc pydantic dependency=
 from the standard docs build, which Luca is going to do<br>* Next meeting =
is Aug 14, 2025</div>

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