From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
Cc: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>,
techboard@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: Optimizations are not features
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2022 16:40:23 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1M1ctR_8sT70VCyEiJiOd-45LP4p_CoFnqMiYB1qjmdFg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeb8b7f1-c346-a9cf-ddb8-194b32c7978a@oktetlabs.ru>
On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 3:30 PM Andrew Rybchenko
<andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru> wrote:
>
> On 6/4/22 12:33, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 2:39 PM Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like the DPDK community to change its view on compile time options. Here is why:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Application specific performance micro-optimizations like “fast mbuf free” and “mbuf direct re-arm” are being added to DPDK and presented as features.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> They are not features, but optimizations, and I don’t understand the need for them to be available at run-time!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Instead of adding a bunch of exotic exceptions to the fast path of the PMDs, they should be compile time options. This will improve performance by avoiding branches in the fast path, both for the applications using them, and for generic applications (where the exotic code is omitted).
> >
> > Agree. I think, keeping the best of both worlds would be
> >
> > -Enable the feature/optimization as runtime
> > -Have a compile-time option to disable the feature/optimization as an override.
>
> It is hard to find the right balance, but in general compile
> time options are a nightmare for maintenance. Number of
> required builds will grow as an exponent. Of course, we can
> limit number of checked combinations, but it will result in
> flow of patches to fix build in other cases.
The build breakage can be fixed if we use (2) vs (1)
1)
#ifdef ...
My feature
#endif
2)
static __rte_always_inline int
rte_has_xyz_feature(void)
{
#ifdef RTE_LIBRTE_XYZ_FEATURE
return RTE_LIBRTE_XYZ_FEATURE;
#else
return 0;
#endif
}
if(rte_has_xyz_feature())) {
My feature code
}
> Also compile time options tend to make code less readable
> which makes all aspects of the development harder.
>
> Yes, compile time is nice for micro optimizations, but
> I have great concerns that it is a right way to go.
>
> >> Please note that I am only talking about the performance optimizations that are limited to application specific use cases. I think it makes sense to require that performance optimizing an application also requires recompiling the performance critical libraries used by it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Allowing compile time options for application specific performance optimizations in DPDK would also open a path for other optimizations, which can only be achieved at compile time, such as “no fragmented packets”, “no attached mbufs” and “single mbuf pool”. And even more exotic optimizations, such as the “indexed mempool cache”, which was rejected due to ABI violations – they could be marked as “risky and untested” or similar, but still be part of the DPDK main repository.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards,
> >>
> >> -Morten Brørup
> >>
> >>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-04 11:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-04 9:09 Morten Brørup
2022-06-04 9:33 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-06-04 10:00 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-04 11:10 ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2022-06-04 12:19 ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-04 12:51 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-05 8:15 ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-05 16:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-06-06 9:35 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-29 20:44 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-30 15:39 ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-03 19:38 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-04 16:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-07-04 22:06 ` Morten Brørup
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