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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, "Jerin Jacob" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	techboard@dpdk.org, harry.van.haaren@intel.com,
	"Peter Nilsson" <peter.j.nilsson@ericsson.com>,
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	"Pavan Nikhilesh" <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>,
	"Gujjar Abhinandan S" <abhinandan.gujjar@intel.com>,
	"Erik Gabriel Carrillo" <erik.g.carrillo@intel.com>,
	"Shijith Thotton" <sthotton@marvell.com>,
	"Hemant Agrawal" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"Sachin Saxena" <sachin.saxena@oss.nxp.com>,
	"Liang Ma" <liangma@liangbit.com>,
	"Peter Mccarthy" <peter.mccarthy@intel.com>,
	"Zhirun Yan" <zhirun.yan@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] lib: introduce dispatcher library
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:17:40 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1NP9u6PpKVO-+H6kE-sSZ2NrPS507w4MtZ-EYedJ3+p2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b09b6778-fab9-3086-ab56-9440dfc6bee7@lysator.liu.se>

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 10:17 PM Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se> wrote:
>
> On 2023-09-19 12:58, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 6:39 PM Mattias Rönnblom
> > <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The purpose of the dispatcher library is to help reduce coupling in an
> >> Eventdev-based DPDK application.
> >>
> >> In addition, the dispatcher also provides a convenient and flexible
> >> way for the application to use service cores for application-level
> >> processing.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Mattias Rönnblom <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
> >> Tested-by: Peter Nilsson <peter.j.nilsson@ericsson.com>
> >
> > High level architecture comment
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > 1) I think, we don't need tie this library ONLY to event dev
> > application. It can be used with poll mode as well,
> > that way traditiona pipeline application with ethdev as source could
> > use this library dispatch the packets.
> >
>
> They could potentially use a library *like this*, but I'm not sure it
> should be this library, or at least I think it should be a different API
> (better type checking, plus no obvious benefit of being more generic).

The only reason why I thought of this, It is cheap to do as all the logic
for comparing match actions, packet/event aggregation and calling the
action function is _same_
and better type checking can be added by separate callback for each source.
and allow more user to use this library.

I don't have a strong opinion of API semantic on this library API
other than the placement.
Feel free to ignore.

> Another option for a traditional app calling rte_eth_rx_burst() directly
> is to start using eventdev. :)

Yes. Those who can afford extra SW cores to emulate eventdev or has evendev HW.

>
> > We dont need to implement that first version but API can make room for
> > such abstractions.
> >
> > Based on my understanding in fast-path it has means to
> > a)Pull out the events using rte_event_dequeue()
> > b)Compare with registered match functions and call process upon match.
> >
> > if we abstract (a) as rte_dispatcher_source, We could pull from ethdev
> > via rte_eth_rx_burst() or
> > from ring via dequeue_burst API or so based on rte_dispatcher_source
> > selected for dispatch configuration
> > and we can use different sevice function pointers to have different service core
> > implementation without effecting performance each sources.
> >
>
> It could be generalized, for sure. I don't think it should be, at this
> point at least.
>
> Non-event dev events could - and at this point I'm leaning toward
> *should* - be consumed as a different DPDK service, but potentially on
> the same lcore.
>
> If you would want to prepare for a future with several different event
> sources, one could consider reintroducing the word "event" somewhere in
> the dispatcher's name. So you would have
> rte_event_dispatcher.h
> rte_eth_dispatcher.h
>
> or
>
> rte_dispatcher_event.h
> rte_dispatcher_eth.h

Yes.

> > High level cosmetic comment
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > 1)Missing doxygen connection- See doc/api/doxy-api-index.md
> >
>
> rte_dispatcher.h is listed under **classification**, but this change is
> in the programming guide patch. I'll move it to the patch containing the
> header file.
>
>
> > Process related comment
> > ------------------------------------
> > 1) Documentation does not need need separate patch. All recent library
> > changes documentation in same file.
> > You could have doc and API header file as first patch and
> > implementation as subsequent patches.
> >
> >
>
> I'm not sure how this is an improvement. Can you elaborate? For me, it
> just seems like a change.
>
> Are there some guidelines on how to split a larger change into a patch
> set? A section on this matter in the contribution guide would be great.

In general, more patches easy review and attract more reviewers.

Last library was added to dpdk is lib/mldev. You can see
git log lib/mldev/

There operations like _create/free() etc made as separate patches.

I leave it up to you and Thomas as this library will be merged though main tree.
No strong opinion.

>
> >
> >> diff --git a/lib/dispatcher/rte_dispatcher.h b/lib/dispatcher/rte_dispatcher.h
> >> new file mode 100644
> >> index 0000000000..6712687a08
> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/lib/dispatcher/rte_dispatcher.h
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,480 @@
> >> +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: BSD-3-Clause
> >> + * Copyright(c) 2023 Ericsson AB
> >> + */
> >> +
> >> +#ifndef __RTE_DISPATCHER_H__
> >> +#define __RTE_DISPATCHER_H__
> >> +
> >
> >
> > All new API should be experimental. See
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/latest/source/lib/graph/rte_graph.h#L12
> > example.
> >
>
> Noted.
>
> >
> >> +/**
> >> + * @file
> >> + *
> >> + * RTE Dispatcher
> >> + *
> >> + * The purpose of the dispatcher is to help decouple different parts
> >> + * of an application (e.g., modules), sharing the same underlying
> >> + * event device.
> >> +
> >> +/**
> >> + * Function prototype for match callbacks.
> >> + *
> >> + * Match callbacks are used by an application to decide how the
> >> + * dispatcher distributes events to different parts of the
> >> + * application.
> >> + *
> >> + * The application is not expected to process the event at the point
> >> + * of the match call. Such matters should be deferred to the process
> >> + * callback invocation.
> >> + *
> >> + * The match callback may be used as an opportunity to prefetch data.
> >> + *
> >> + * @param event
> >> + *  Pointer to event
> >> + *
> >> + * @param cb_data
> >> + *  The pointer supplied by the application in
> >> + *  rte_dispatcher_register().
> >> + *
> >> + * @return
> >> + *   Returns true in case this events should be delivered (via
> >> + *   the process callback), and false otherwise.
> >> + */
> >> +typedef bool
> >> +(*rte_dispatcher_match_t)(const struct rte_event *event, void *cb_data);
> >
> >
> > a) Can we use void* event, so that it can be used with mbuf or other
> > type by casting in the call back implementer.
> >
> > b) I was thinking, How we can avoid this function pointer and enable
> > more have better performance at architecture level.
> >
> > Both x86, ARM has vector instructions[1] to form a vector from various
> > offset from memory and compare N events
> > in one shot. That is, if express match data like offset = X has value
> > is Y and offset = X has value = A.
> > I know, it may not good existing application using this APIs. But I
> > believe, it will be more performance
> > effective. If make sense, you can adapt to this.(Something to think about)
> >
>
> There may be a future development where you try to shave off a few of
> the circa 10 clock cycles per event of overhead that the current

OK, as you wish.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-21 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-18 18:30 [dpdk-dev] [RFC] eventdev: introduce event dispatcher Mattias Rönnblom
2021-02-22 15:28 ` Luca Boccassi
2021-02-26  7:48   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-02-25 12:32 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-02-26  8:01   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-03-07 13:04     ` Jerin Jacob
2021-03-15 14:44       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-03-15 15:00         ` Van Haaren, Harry
2021-03-22  9:50           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-04-09 11:32             ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v2] " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-05-22  9:16               ` [RFC v3 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-05-22  9:16                 ` [RFC v3 1/3] eventdev: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-09  7:08                   ` [RFC v4 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-09  7:08                     ` [RFC v4 1/3] eventdev: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-09 14:34                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-06-09 17:51                         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-14 17:25                       ` [PATCH 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-14 17:25                         ` [PATCH 1/3] eventdev: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-14 18:13                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-06-15  6:07                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-16  7:40                           ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-16  7:40                             ` [PATCH v2 1/3] eventdev: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-08-18  6:09                               ` Jerin Jacob
2023-08-22  8:42                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-08-22 12:32                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2023-08-24 11:17                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-08-25  7:27                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2023-09-01 10:53                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-01 10:56                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2023-09-04 13:03                               ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add dispatcher library Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-04 13:03                                 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] lib: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-17 16:46                                   ` Naga Harish K, S V
2023-09-19  9:20                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-20  9:11                                       ` Naga Harish K, S V
2023-09-20  9:32                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2023-09-21  5:59                                       ` Naga Harish K, S V
2023-09-21  7:23                                         ` Jerin Jacob
2023-09-19 10:58                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2023-09-21 16:47                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-21 17:47                                       ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2023-09-21 18:36                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2023-09-22  6:32                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-22  7:38                                   ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-22  7:38                                     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] lib: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-25  7:11                                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-25  7:59                                         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-09-26 18:28                                         ` Jerin Jacob
2023-09-27  8:13                                           ` Bruce Richardson
2023-09-28  7:44                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-03 17:31                                             ` Jerin Jacob
2023-09-28  7:30                                       ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-28  7:30                                         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] lib: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-05  8:36                                           ` David Marchand
2023-10-05 10:08                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-06  8:46                                               ` David Marchand
2023-10-06  9:03                                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-10-09 17:40                                                   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-09 16:49                                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-11 14:57                                                   ` David Marchand
2023-10-11 20:51                                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-09 18:17                                           ` [PATCH v6 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-09 18:17                                             ` [PATCH v6 1/3] lib: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-11  7:16                                               ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-11  7:16                                                 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] lib: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-12  8:50                                                   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Add " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-12  8:50                                                     ` [PATCH v8 1/3] lib: introduce " Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-12  8:50                                                     ` [PATCH v8 2/3] test: add dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-12  8:50                                                     ` [PATCH v8 3/3] doc: add dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-12 12:48                                                     ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Add dispatcher library David Marchand
2023-10-11  7:16                                                 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] test: add dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-11  7:17                                                 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] doc: add dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-09 18:17                                             ` [PATCH v6 2/3] test: add dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-10 11:56                                               ` David Marchand
2023-10-11  6:28                                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-11  7:26                                                   ` David Marchand
2023-10-10 14:02                                               ` David Marchand
2023-10-11  6:45                                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-09 18:17                                             ` [PATCH v6 3/3] doc: add dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-10 13:31                                               ` David Marchand
2023-10-11  6:38                                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-28  7:30                                         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] test: add dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-05  8:36                                           ` David Marchand
2023-10-05 11:25                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-06  8:52                                               ` David Marchand
2023-10-09 17:16                                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-28  7:30                                         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] doc: add dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-05  8:36                                           ` David Marchand
2023-10-05 11:33                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-22  7:38                                     ` [PATCH v4 2/3] test: add dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-22  7:38                                     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] doc: add dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-04 13:03                                 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] test: add dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-04 13:03                                 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] doc: add dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-06 19:32                                 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add dispatcher library Stephen Hemminger
2023-09-06 20:28                                   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-16  7:40                             ` [PATCH v2 2/3] test: add event dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-16  7:40                             ` [PATCH v2 3/3] doc: add event dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-14 17:25                         ` [PATCH 2/3] test: add event dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-14 17:25                         ` [PATCH 3/3] doc: add event dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-09  7:08                     ` [RFC v4 2/3] test: add event dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-09  7:08                     ` [RFC v4 3/3] doc: add event dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom
2023-05-22  9:16                 ` [RFC v3 2/3] test: add event dispatcher test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2023-05-22  9:16                 ` [RFC v3 3/3] doc: add event dispatcher programming guide Mattias Rönnblom

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