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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
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Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/1] Dataplane Workload Accelerator library
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 02:43:18 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1Od6-iqEYnDCGRJSS8efxwNZxO7GMUm2hsdoC0ApKVJRg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15147533.nJ1qs5LPEr@thomas>

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 1:04 AM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
>
> 31/10/2021 15:01, Jerin Jacob:
> > Since rte_flow already has the TLV concept it may not be new to DPDK.
>
> Where is there TLV in rte_flow?

struct rte_flow_item {
        enum rte_flow_item_type type; /**< Item type. */
        const void *spec; /**< Pointer to item specification structure. */

Type is the tag here and the spec is the value here. Length is the
size of the specification structure.
rte_flows spec does not support/need zero length variable at the end
of spec structure,
that reason for not embedding explicit length value as it is can be
derived from sizeof(specification structure).


>
> > I really liked rte_flow enablement of ABI combability and its ease of adding
> > new stuff. Try to follow similar stuff which is proven in DPDK.
> > Ie. New profile creation will very easy, it will be a matter of identifying
> > the TLVs and their type and payload, rather than everyone comes with
> > new APIs in every profile.
> >
> > > Why not use protobuf and its IDL to specify the interface?
>
> Yes I think it is important to discuss alternatives,
> and at least get justifications of why TLV is chosen among others.

Yes. Current list is

1) Very easy to enable ABI compatibility.
2) If it needs to be transported over network etc it needs to be
packed so that way it is easy for implementation to do that
with TLV also gives better performance in such
cases by avoiding reformatting or possibly avoiding memcpy etc.
3) It is easy to plugin with another high-level programing language as
just one API.
4) Easy to decouple DWA core library functionalities from profile.
5) Easy to enable asynchronous scheme using request and response TLVs.
6) Most importantly, We could introduce type notion with TLV
(connected with the type of message  See TYPE_ATTACHED, TYPE_STOPPED,
TYPE_USER_PLANE etc ),
That way, we can have a uniform outlook of profiles instead of each profile
coming with a setup of its own APIs and __rules__ on the state machine.
I think, for a framework to leverage communication mechanisms and other
aspects between profiles, it's important to have some synergy between profiles.
7) No Additional library dependencies like gRPC, protobuf
8) Provide driver to implement the optimized means of supporting different
transport such as Ethernet, Shared memory, PCIe DMA style HW etc.
9) Avoid creating endless APIs and their associated driver function
calls for each
profile APIs.


>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-31 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-19 18:14 jerinj
2021-10-19 18:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/1] dwa: introduce dataplane workload accelerator subsystem jerinj
2021-10-19 19:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/1] Dataplane Workload Accelerator library Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-19 19:36   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-19 20:42     ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-10-20  5:25       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-19 20:42     ` Tom Herbert
2021-10-20  5:38       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-22 12:00     ` Elena Agostini
2021-10-22 13:39       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-25  7:35 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-25  9:03   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-29 11:57     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-29 15:51       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-31  9:18         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-31 14:01           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-31 19:34             ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-31 21:13               ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2021-10-31 21:55                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-31 22:19                   ` Jerin Jacob

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