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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, bruce.richardson@intel.com,
	anatoly.burakov@intel.com,  pmatilai@redhat.com,
	david.marchand@6wind.com, jia.guo@intel.com,  matan@mellanox.com,
	konstantin.ananyev@intel.com, fbl@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] kernel binding of devices + hotplug
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:48:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOaVG14YHng1N5XXkm1nBYKiR-rVzFrWgtsDK2Hc2yjT9ygGDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2407757.yEAnF6RcS7@xps>

My vote is to work with udev and not try to replace it.

Driverctl works well. Just not for bifurcated driver

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 9:31 AM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:

> It's time to think (again) how we bind devices with kernel modules.
> We need to decide how we want to manage hotplugged devices with DPDK.
>
> A bit of history first.
> There was some code in DPDK for bind/unbind, but it has been removed
> in DPDK 1.7 - http://dpdk.org/commit/5d8751b83
> Copy of the commit message (in 2014):
> "
>         The bind/unbind operations should not be handled by the eal.
>         These operations should be either done outside of dpdk or
>         inside the PMDs themselves as these are their problems.
> "
>
> The question raised at this time (4 years ago) is still under discussion.
> Should we manage binding inside or outside DPDK?
> Should it be controlled in the application or in the OS base?
>
> As you know, we use dpdk-devbind.py.
> This tool lacks two major features:
>         - persistent configuration
>         - hotplug
>
> If we consider that the DPDK applications should be able to apply its own
> policy to choose the devices to bind, then we need to implement binding
> in the PMD (with EAL helpers).
>
> On the other hand, if we consider that it is the system responsibility,
> then we could choose systemd/udev and driverctl.
>
> The debate is launched!
>
> Please find more details in the references below.
>
> Announce of driverctl:
>         http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2015-December/029500.html
> Repository of driverctl:
>         https://gitlab.com/driverctl/driverctl
>
> Discussion about binding script and driverctl:
>         http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2018-April/095687.html
>
> Patch to implement binding in DPDK (for hotplug):
>         http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2018-April/095714.html
>
> Discussion in the same hotplug series:
>         http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2018-April/097058.html
>
>
>
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-15  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-13 16:31 Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-13 16:40 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-04-13 17:40   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-04-14 20:10     ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16  8:31       ` Bruce Richardson
2018-04-16 16:11         ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16 16:57           ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-16 17:10             ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16 17:18               ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-16 17:32                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16 17:50             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-17  9:23           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-04-17 10:42             ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-17 11:00               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-04-22 11:26                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16  9:26       ` Guo, Jia
2018-04-16 16:11         ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-15  5:01   ` Wiles, Keith
2018-04-15  1:48 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2018-04-18 14:11   ` Flavio Leitner
2018-04-18 18:17     ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-18 18:54       ` Flavio Leitner
2018-04-19  6:04         ` Alejandro Lucero
2018-04-19  8:24           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-19  8:40             ` Bruce Richardson
2018-04-19  9:47               ` Thomas Monjalon

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