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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	dev <dev@dpdk.org>, "Olivier Matz" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"Andrew Rybchenko" <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"Honnappa Nagarahalli" <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Konstantin Ananyev" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] cache guard
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:40:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOaVG16W_S=hc29V=Ebx-3PYrZU+ffJ=Nri2XtLZniQ5BKasZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D87B4D@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

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A quick hack might just to increase cache line size as experiment

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 11:54 AM Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
wrote:

> > From: Mattias Rönnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
> > Sent: Monday, 28 August 2023 10.46
> >
> > On 2023-08-28 08:32, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > >> From: Mattias Rönnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
> > >> Sent: Monday, 28 August 2023 00.31
> > >>
> > >> On 2023-08-27 17:40, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > >>>> From: Mattias Rönnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, 27 August 2023 15.55
>
> [...]
>
> > >>> So, this gets added to rte_common.h:
> > >>>
> > >>> /**
> > >>>    * Empty cache lines, to guard against false sharing-like effects
> > >>>    * on systems with a next-N-lines hardware prefetcher.
> > >>>    *
> > >>>    * Use as spacing between data accessed by different lcores,
> > >>>    * to prevent cache thrashing on hardware with speculative
> > prefetching.
> > >>>    */
> > >>> #if RTE_CACHE_GUARD_LINES > 0
> > >>> #define _RTE_CACHE_GUARD_HELPER2(unique) \
> > >>>           char cache_guard_ ## unique[RTE_CACHE_LINE_SIZE *
> > >> RTE_CACHE_GUARD_LINES] \
> > >>>           __rte_cache_aligned;
> > >>> #define _RTE_CACHE_GUARD_HELPER1(unique)
> > _RTE_CACHE_GUARD_HELPER2(unique)
> > >>> #define RTE_CACHE_GUARD _RTE_CACHE_GUARD_HELPER1(__COUNTER__)
> > >>> #else
> > >>> #define RTE_CACHE_GUARD
> > >>> #endif
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Seems like a good solution. I thought as far as using __LINE__ to
> > build
> > >> a unique name, but __COUNTER__ is much cleaner, provided it's
> > available
> > >> in relevant compilers. (It's not in C11.)
> > >
> > > I considered __LINE__ too, but came to the same conclusion...
> > __COUNTER__ is cleaner for this purpose.
> > >
> > > And since __COUNTER__ is being used elsewhere in DPDK, I assume it is
> > available for use here too.
> > >
> > > If it turns out causing problems, we can easily switch to __LINE__
> > instead.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Should the semicolon be included or not in HELPER2? If left out, a
> > >> lonely ";" will be left for RTE_CACHE_GUARD_LINES == 0, but I don't
> > >> think that is a problem.
> > >
> > > I tested it on Godbolt, and the lonely ";" in a struct didn't seem to
> > be a problem.
> > >
> > > With the semicolon in HELPER2, there will be a lonely ";" in the
> > struct in both cases, i.e. with and without cache guards enabled.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I don't see why __rte_cache_aligned is needed here. The adjacent
> > struct
> > >> must be cache-line aligned. Maybe it makes it more readable, having
> > the
> > >> explicit guard padding starting at the start of the actual guard
> > cache
> > >> lines, rather than potentially at some earlier point before, and
> > having
> > >> non-guard padding at the end of the struct (from __rte_cache_aligned
> > on
> > >> the struct level).
> > >
> > > Having both __rte_cache_aligned and the char array with full cache
> > lines ensures that the guard field itself is on its own separate cache
> > line, regardless of the organization of adjacent fields in the struct.
> > E.g. this will also work:
> > >
> > > struct test {
> > >      char x;
> > >      RTE_CACHE_GUARD;
> > >      char y;
> > > };
> > >
> >
> > That struct declaration is broken, since it will create false sharing
> > between x and y, in case RTE_CACHE_GUARD_LINES is defined to 0.
> >
> > Maybe the most intuitive function (semantics) of the RTE_CACHE_GUARD
> > macro would be have it deal exclusively with the issue resulting from
> > next-N-line (and similar) hardware prefetching, and leave
> > __rte_cache_aligned to deal with "classic" (same-cache line) false
> > sharing.
>
> Excellent review feedback!
>
> I only thought of the cache guard as a means to provide spacing between
> elements where the developer already prevented (same-cache line) false
> sharing by some other means. I didn't even consider the alternative
> interpretation of its purpose.
>
> Your feedback leaves no doubt that we should extend the cache guard's
> purpose to also enforce cache alignment (under all circumstances, also when
> RTE_CACHE_GUARD_LINES is 0).
>
> >
> > Otherwise you would have to have something like
> >
> > struct test
> > {
> >       char x;
> >       RTE_CACHE_GUARD(char, y);
> > };
> >
> > ...so that 'y' can be made __rte_cache_aligned by the macro.
>
> There's an easier solution...
>
> We can copy the concept from the RTE_MARKER type, which uses a zero-length
> array. By simply omitting the #if RTE_CACHE_GUARD_LINES > 0, the macro will
> serve both purposes:
>
> #define _RTE_CACHE_GUARD_HELPER2(unique) \
>         char cache_guard_ ## unique[RTE_CACHE_LINE_SIZE *
> RTE_CACHE_GUARD_LINES] \
>         __rte_cache_aligned;
> #define _RTE_CACHE_GUARD_HELPER1(unique) _RTE_CACHE_GUARD_HELPER2(unique)
> #define RTE_CACHE_GUARD _RTE_CACHE_GUARD_HELPER1(__COUNTER__)
>
> I have verified on Godbolt that this works. The memif driver also uses
> RTE_MARKER this way [1].
>
> [1]:
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/latest/source/drivers/net/memif/memif.h#L173
>
> >
> > RTE_HW_PREFETCH_GUARD could be an alternative name, but I think I like
> > RTE_CACHE_GUARD better.
> >
>
> When the macro serves both purposes (regardless of the value of
> RTE_CACHE_GUARD_LINES), I think we can stick with the RTE_CACHE_GUARD name.
>
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-28 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-25  6:45 cache thrashing question Morten Brørup
2023-08-25  8:22 ` Bruce Richardson
2023-08-25  9:06   ` Morten Brørup
2023-08-25  9:23     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-08-27  8:34       ` [RFC] cache guard Morten Brørup
2023-08-27 13:55         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-08-27 15:40           ` Morten Brørup
2023-08-27 22:30             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-08-28  6:32               ` Morten Brørup
2023-08-28  8:46                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-08-28  9:54                   ` Morten Brørup
2023-08-28 10:40                     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2023-08-28  7:57             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-09-01 12:26         ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-09-01 16:57           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-01 18:52             ` Morten Brørup
2023-09-04 12:07               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-04 12:48                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-09-05  5:50                   ` Mattias Rönnblom

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