From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga09.intel.com (mga09.intel.com [134.134.136.24]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C7CCD12 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2015 23:31:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fmsmga002.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.26]) by orsmga102.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2015 14:31:12 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.11,679,1422950400"; d="scan'208";a="718705951" Received: from orsmsx102.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.225.129]) by fmsmga002.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2015 14:31:11 -0700 Received: from orsmsx160.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.226.43) by ORSMSX102.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.225.129) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.224.2; Thu, 30 Apr 2015 14:31:10 -0700 Received: from fmsmsx157.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.116.73) by ORSMSX160.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.226.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.224.2; Thu, 30 Apr 2015 14:31:10 -0700 Received: from fmsmsx113.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.13.26]) by FMSMSX157.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.14.230]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Thu, 30 Apr 2015 14:31:10 -0700 From: "Wiles, Keith" To: "dev@dpdk.org" Thread-Topic: [dpdk-dev] Beyond DPDK 2.0 Thread-Index: AQHQg4z51ftzhuzCQX2G2XNq9ZOWFA== Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 21:31:09 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.252.204.210] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Beyond DPDK 2.0 X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: patches and discussions about DPDK List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 21:31:14 -0000 (I snipped out the content here only because it had been snipped a lot already) Sorry, if I am highjacking the thread. I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the primary DPDK site. http://github.com I believe the DPDK community can benefit from being at a very well know world wide site. GitHub seems to have the most eyes of any of the open source Git repos today and it appears they have more then twice as many developers. GitHub has a number of features I see as some good additions to our community using the GitHub organization account type. The cost for an organization account is $0 as long as we do not need more then 5 private repos. 10 private repos is $25/month and had other plans for more. I do not see us needing more then 5 private repos today and the only reason I can see having a private repo is to do some prep work on the repo before making public. Every contributor would need to create a GitHub personal account, which is at no cost unless you need more then 5 private repos. In both accounts you can have unlimited public repos. https://help.github.com/articles/where-can-i-find-open-source-projects-to-w ork-on/ http://www.sitepoint.com/using-git-open-source-projects/ - Adding more committers can lead to a security problems for 6Wind (I assume). - 6Wind appearing to own DPDK.org is not a good message to the community. - Not assuming 6Wind=B9s dpdk.org site will disappear only where the community stores the master repos and how the community interacts with the master. - Permission and access levels in dpdk.org is only one level and we can benefit from having 4 levels and teams as well. - The patch process today suffers from timely reviews, which will not be fixed by moving. - GitHub has a per pull request discussions area, which gives a clean way to review all discussions on a specific change. - The current patch model is clone dpdk.org/modify/commit/send patch set - The model with GitHub is fork on GitHub/modify/commit/send pull request - The patchwork web site is reasonable, but has some draw backs in maintaining the site. - GitHub manages the patches via pull requests and can be easily seen via a web browser. - The down side is you do have to use a web browser to do some work, but the everyday work would be done as it is today. - I think we all have a web browser now :-) - GitHub has team support and gives a group better control plus collaboration is much easier as we have a external location to work. - Most companies have some pretty high security level and being to collaborate between two or more companies is very difficult if one company is hosting the repo behind a firewall. - Using GitHub and teams would make collaboration a lot easier or collaboration between two or more user accounts as well. - GitHub has a Web Page system, which can be customized for the community needs via a public or private repo. - We still need a dpdk.org email list I believe as I did not find one at GitHub. - We can also forward GitHub emails to the list. - I believe you can reply to an email from GitHub and the email will get appended to the discussion thread. As most do not like to read long emails :-) I will stop here and add one more thing. I have create a sandbox on GitHub for anyone to play with using GitHub. You will need to create a GitHub account and an email me your account name to add you to the organization site as a contributor. The GitHub site is not a fork of dpdk.org only a sandbox to play with how GitHub can help the community to gain more developers in a clean manner. Regards ++Keith =20