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From: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	Xiao Wang <xiao.w.wang@intel.com>,
	"jfreimann@redhat.com" <jfreimann@redhat.com>,
	Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@intel.com>,
	Zhihong Wang <zhihong.wang@intel.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"xiaolong.ye@intel.com" <xiaolong.ye@intel.com>,
	"alejandro.lucero@netronome.com" <alejandro.lucero@netronome.com>,
	Daniel Marcovitch <danielm@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] net/virtio: add platform memory ordering feature support
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:33:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB7PR05MB4426256C758C4CC116E81B61C3810@DB7PR05MB4426.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB7PR05MB4426023DA7130006F6084E1FC3840@DB7PR05MB4426.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:37 PM, Shahaf Shuler:
> Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] net/virtio: add platform memory
> ordering feature support
> 
> Wednesday, January 9, 2019 5:50 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin:
> > alejandro.lucero@netronome.com; Daniel Marcovitch
> > <danielm@mellanox.com>
> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] net/virtio: add platform memory
> > ordering feature support
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 05:34:38PM +0300, Ilya Maximets wrote:
> > > virtio_mb() is really heavy. I'd like to avoid it somehow, but I
> > > don't know how to do this yet.
> >
> > Linux driver doesn't avoid it either.
> 
> I understand v3 was merged but still would like to continue the discuss and
> make sure all is clear and agreed.
> 
> Form patch [1] description it is very clear why we need the rte_smp_mb()
> barrier.
> However I am not sure why this barrier is interoperate into rte_mb in case of
> vDPA.  In vDPA case, both read of the user ring and write of the avail index
> are for local cached memory.
> The only write which is to uncachable memory (device memory) is the notify
> itself.
> 
> As I mentioned, there is a need to have a store fence before doing the
> notify, but from different reasons. So vDPA use case and need Is a bit
> different than what presented in [1].

Any answer?
It is pity if we add redundant barriers which will degrade the driver performance. 

> 
> [1]
> https://patches.dpdk.org/patch/49545/
> 
> >
> > --
> > MST

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-15  6:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20181214153817eucas1p19a41cdd791879252e1f3a5d77c427845@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2018-12-14 15:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " Ilya Maximets
2018-12-14 17:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14 17:23     ` Ilya Maximets
     [not found]   ` <CGME20181226163717eucas1p15276eb45e35abe2c9cf3e7c1e0050823@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2018-12-26 16:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Ilya Maximets
2018-12-27 10:07       ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-01-09 14:34         ` Ilya Maximets
2019-01-09 15:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-10 20:36             ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-01-15  6:33               ` Shahaf Shuler [this message]
2019-01-15  8:29                 ` Ilya Maximets
2019-01-15  8:55                   ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-01-15 10:23                     ` Ilya Maximets
2019-02-12 17:50                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]       ` <CGME20190109145021eucas1p1bfe194ffafaaaa5df62243c92b2ed6cd@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2019-01-09 14:50         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] Missing barriers and VIRTIO_F_ORDER_PLATFORM Ilya Maximets
     [not found]           ` <CGME20190109145027eucas1p2437215de0df4c691eb84d4e84bfc71e5@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2019-01-09 14:50             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] net/virtio: add missing barrier before reading the flags Ilya Maximets
2019-01-10 14:31               ` Maxime Coquelin
     [not found]           ` <CGME20190109145034eucas1p2183e275e316b87917b96fa184fc7d7cb@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2019-01-09 14:50             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] net/virtio: update memory ordering comment for vq notify Ilya Maximets
2019-01-10  8:19               ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-01-10  9:18                 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-01-10  9:55                   ` Ilya Maximets
2019-01-10 14:56                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-10 14:31               ` Maxime Coquelin
     [not found]           ` <CGME20190109145040eucas1p2d9afc678ef94986544bde07b77373e6f@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2019-01-09 14:50             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] net/virtio: add platform memory ordering feature support Ilya Maximets
2019-01-10 14:31               ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-01-09 14:55           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] Missing barriers and VIRTIO_F_ORDER_PLATFORM Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-09 15:24             ` Ilya Maximets
2019-01-09 16:53               ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-01-10 15:19             ` Maxime Coquelin

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