From: Kamalakshitha Aligeri <Kamalakshitha.Aligeri@arm.com>
To: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
"andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru" <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, nd <nd@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v5] mempool cache: add zero-copy get and put functions
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 01:53:44 +0000 [thread overview]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>; Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>; olivier.matz@6wind.com; andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru; Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>; Kamalakshitha Aligeri <Kamalakshitha.Aligeri@arm.com>; dev@dpdk.org; nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] mempool cache: add zero-copy get and put functions
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 01:23:50PM +0100, Morten Br�rup wrote:
> > From: Konstantin Ananyev [mailto:konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com]
> > Sent: Monday, 23 January 2023 12.54
> >
> > > > Few nits, see below.
> > > > Also I still think we do need a test case for _zc_get_ before
> > > > accepting it in the mainline.
> > >
I am working on the test cases. Will submit it soon
> > > Poking at my bad conscience... :-)
> > >
> > > It's on my todo-list. Apparently not high enough. ;-)
> > >
> > > > With that in place:
> > > > Acked-by: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>
> > > >
>
> [...]
>
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * @warning
> > > > > + * @b EXPERIMENTAL: This API may change, or be removed,
> > > > > +without
> > > > prior notice.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Zero-copy put objects in a user-owned mempool cache backed
> > > > > + by
> > the
> > > > specified mempool.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * @param cache
> > > > > + * A pointer to the mempool cache.
> > > > > + * @param mp
> > > > > + * A pointer to the mempool.
> > > > > + * @param n
> > > > > + * The number of objects to be put in the mempool cache.
> > > > > + * @return
> > > > > + * The pointer to where to put the objects in the mempool
> > cache.
> > > > > + * NULL if the request itself is too big for the cache, i.e.
> > > > > + * exceeds the cache flush threshold.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +__rte_experimental
> > > > > +static __rte_always_inline void **
> > > > > +rte_mempool_cache_zc_put_bulk(struct rte_mempool_cache *cache,
> > > > > + struct rte_mempool *mp,
> > > > > + unsigned int n)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > + RTE_ASSERT(cache != NULL);
> > > > > + RTE_ASSERT(mp != NULL);
> > > > > +
> > > > > + rte_mempool_trace_cache_zc_put_bulk(cache, mp, n);
> > > > > + return __rte_mempool_cache_zc_put_bulk(cache, mp, n); }
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * @warning
> > > > > + * @b EXPERIMENTAL: This API may change, or be removed,
> > > > > +without
> > > > prior notice.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Zero-copy un-put objects in a user-owned mempool cache.
Why is it written as user-owned mempool cache. API expects a pointer to mempool cache right, whether it is default or user-owned does not make any difference
Please correct me if I am wrong
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * @param cache
> > > > > + * A pointer to the mempool cache.
> > > > > + * @param n
> > > > > + * The number of objects not put in the mempool cache after
> > > > calling
> > > > > + * rte_mempool_cache_zc_put_bulk().
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +__rte_experimental
> > > > > +static __rte_always_inline void
> > > > > +rte_mempool_cache_zc_put_rewind(struct rte_mempool_cache *cache,
> > > > > + unsigned int n)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > + RTE_ASSERT(cache != NULL);
> > > > > + RTE_ASSERT(n <= cache->len);
> > > > > +
> > > > > + rte_mempool_trace_cache_zc_put_rewind(cache, n);
> > > > > +
> > > > > + cache->len -= n;
> > > > > +
> > > > > + RTE_MEMPOOL_CACHE_STAT_ADD(cache, put_objs, (int)-n); }
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * @warning
> > > > > + * @b EXPERIMENTAL: This API may change, or be removed,
> > > > > +without
> > > > prior notice.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Zero-copy get objects from a user-owned mempool cache
> > > > > + backed
> > by
> > > > the specified mempool.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * @param cache
> > > > > + * A pointer to the mempool cache.
> > > > > + * @param mp
> > > > > + * A pointer to the mempool.
> > > > > + * @param n
> > > > > + * The number of objects to prefetch into the mempool cache.
> > > >
> > > > Why not 'get' instead of 'prefetch'?
> > >
> > > This was my thinking:
> > >
> > > The function "prefetches" the objects into the cache. It is the
> > application itself that "gets" the objects from the cache after
> > having
> > > called the function.
> > > You might also notice that the n parameter for the zc_put()
> > > function
> > is described as "to be put" (future), not "to put" (now) in the
> > > cache.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I chose "Zero-copy get" for the function
> > > headline
> > to keep it simple.
> > >
> > > If you think "get" is a more correct description of the n
> > > parameter,
> > I can change it.
> > >
> > > Alternatively, I can use the same style as zc_put(), i.e. "to be
> > gotten from the mempool cache" - but that would require input from a
> > > natively English speaking person, because Danish and English
> > > grammar
> > is very different, and I am highly uncertain about my English
> > > grammar here! I originally considered this phrase, but concluded
> > > that
> > the "prefetch" description was easier to understand - especially
> > > for non-native English readers.
> >
> > For me 'prefetch' seems a bit unclear in that situation...
> > Probably: "number of objects that user plans to extract from the
> > cache"?
> > But again, I am not native English speaker too, so might be someone
> > can suggest a better option.
> >
>
> @Bruce (or any other native English speaking person), your input would be appreciated here!
>
I was happily ignoring this thread until you went and dragged me in with a hard question. :-)
I think the longer explanation the clearer it is likely to be. How about "number of objects to be made available for extraction from the cache"? I don't like the reference to "the user" in the longer suggestion above, but otherwise consider it clearer that talking of prefetching or "getting".
My 2c.
/Bruce
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-24 1:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-05 13:19 [RFC]: mempool: zero-copy cache get bulk Morten Brørup
2022-11-07 9:19 ` Bruce Richardson
2022-11-07 14:32 ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-15 16:18 ` [PATCH] mempool cache: add zero-copy get and put functions Morten Brørup
2022-11-16 18:04 ` [PATCH v2] " Morten Brørup
2022-11-29 20:54 ` Kamalakshitha Aligeri
2022-11-30 10:21 ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-22 15:57 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-12-22 17:55 ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-23 16:58 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-12-24 12:17 ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-24 11:49 ` [PATCH v3] " Morten Brørup
2022-12-24 11:55 ` [PATCH v4] " Morten Brørup
2022-12-27 9:24 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-12-27 10:31 ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-27 15:17 ` [PATCH v5] " Morten Brørup
2023-01-22 20:34 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-01-22 21:17 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-23 11:53 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-01-23 12:23 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-23 12:52 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-01-23 14:30 ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-24 1:53 ` Kamalakshitha Aligeri [this message]
2023-02-09 14:39 ` [PATCH v6] " Morten Brørup
2023-02-09 14:52 ` [PATCH v7] " Morten Brørup
2023-02-09 14:58 ` [PATCH v8] " Morten Brørup
2023-02-10 8:35 ` fengchengwen
2023-02-12 19:56 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-12 23:15 ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-13 4:29 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-13 9:30 ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-13 9:37 ` Olivier Matz
2023-02-13 10:25 ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-14 14:16 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-13 12:24 ` [PATCH v9] " Morten Brørup
2023-02-13 14:33 ` Kamalakshitha Aligeri
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