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From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"Anatoly Burakov" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Nicolas Chautru" <nicolas.chautru@intel.com>,
	"Fan Zhang" <roy.fan.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Ashish Gupta" <ashish.gupta@marvell.com>,
	"Akhil Goyal" <gakhil@marvell.com>,
	"David Hunt" <david.hunt@intel.com>,
	"Chengwen Feng" <fengchengwen@huawei.com>,
	"Kevin Laatz" <kevin.laatz@intel.com>,
	"Ray Kinsella" <mdr@ashroe.eu>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Ferruh Yigit" <ferruh.yigit@xilinx.com>,
	"Andrew Rybchenko" <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"Sachin Saxena" <sachin.saxena@oss.nxp.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"Ori Kam" <orika@nvidia.com>,
	"Konstantin Ananyev" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>
Cc: Conor Walsh <conor.walsh@intel.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 1/2] eal: add lcore busyness telemetry
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 03:10:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBAPR08MB5814A83A1E834AABF81296D2988D9@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D871CC@smartserver.smartshare.dk>


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> Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 1/2] eal: add lcore busyness telemetry
> 
> > From: Anatoly Burakov [mailto:anatoly.burakov@intel.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 15 July 2022 15.13
> >
> > Currently, there is no way to measure lcore busyness in a passive way,
> > without any modifications to the application. This patch adds a new
> > EAL API that will be able to passively track core busyness.
> >
> > The busyness is calculated by relying on the fact that most DPDK API's
> > will poll for packets.
> 
> This is an "alternative fact"! Only run-to-completion applications polls for RX.
> Pipelined applications do not poll for packets in every pipeline stage.
I guess you meant, poll for packets from NIC. They still need to receive packets from queues. We could do a similar thing for rte_ring APIs.

> 
> > Empty polls can be counted as "idle", while non-empty polls can be
> > counted as busy. To measure lcore busyness, we simply call the
> > telemetry timestamping function with the number of polls a particular
> > code section has processed, and count the number of cycles we've spent
> > processing empty bursts. The more empty bursts we encounter, the less
> > cycles we spend in "busy" state, and the less core busyness will be
> > reported.
> >
> > In order for all of the above to work without modifications to the
> > application, the library code needs to be instrumented with calls to
> > the lcore telemetry busyness timestamping function. The following
> > parts of DPDK are instrumented with lcore telemetry calls:
> >
> > - All major driver API's:
> >   - ethdev
> >   - cryptodev
> >   - compressdev
> >   - regexdev
> >   - bbdev
> >   - rawdev
> >   - eventdev
> >   - dmadev
> > - Some additional libraries:
> >   - ring
> >   - distributor
> >
> > To avoid performance impact from having lcore telemetry support, a
> > global variable is exported by EAL, and a call to timestamping
> > function is wrapped into a macro, so that whenever telemetry is
> > disabled, it only takes one additional branch and no function calls
> > are performed. It is also possible to disable it at compile time by
> > commenting out RTE_LCORE_BUSYNESS from build config.
> 
> Since all of this can be completely disabled at build time, and thus has exactly
> zero performance impact, I will not object to this patch.
> 
> >
> > This patch also adds a telemetry endpoint to report lcore busyness, as
> > well as telemetry endpoints to enable/disable lcore telemetry.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Kevin Laatz <kevin.laatz@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Conor Walsh <conor.walsh@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: David Hunt <david.hunt@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
> > ---
> >
> > Notes:
> >     We did a couple of quick smoke tests to see if this patch causes
> > any performance
> >     degradation, and it seemed to have none that we could measure.
> > Telemetry can be
> >     disabled at compile time via a config option, while at runtime it
> > can be
> >     disabled, seemingly at a cost of one additional branch.
> >
> >     That said, our benchmarking efforts were admittedly not very
> > rigorous, so
> >     comments welcome!
> 
> This patch does not reflect lcore business, it reflects some sort of ingress
> activity level.
> 
> All the considerations regarding non-intrusiveness and low overhead are
> good, but everything in this patch needs to be renamed to reflect what it truly
> does, so it is clear that pipelined applications cannot use this telemetry for
> measuring lcore business (except on the ingress pipeline stage).
> 
> It's a shame that so much effort clearly has gone into this patch, and no one
> stopped to consider pipelined applications. :-(


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-17  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-15 13:12 Anatoly Burakov
2022-07-15 13:12 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Anatoly Burakov
2022-07-15 13:35 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] eal: add lcore busyness telemetry Burakov, Anatoly
2022-07-15 13:46 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-07-15 14:11   ` Bruce Richardson
2022-07-15 14:18   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2022-07-15 22:13 ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-16 14:38   ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-07-17  3:10   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli [this message]
2022-07-17  9:56     ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-18  9:43       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2022-07-18 10:59         ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-19 12:20           ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-07-18 15:46         ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-24 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Add lcore poll " Kevin Laatz
2022-08-24 16:24   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-08-24 16:24   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-08-24 16:24   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] doc: add howto guide for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25  7:47   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Morten Brørup
2022-08-25 10:53     ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25 15:28 ` [PATCH v3 " Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25 15:28   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-08-26  7:05     ` Jerin Jacob
2022-08-26  8:07       ` Bruce Richardson
2022-08-26  8:16         ` Jerin Jacob
2022-08-26  8:29           ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-26 15:27             ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-26 15:46               ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-29 10:41                 ` Bruce Richardson
2022-08-29 10:53                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-08-29 12:36                     ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-29 12:49                       ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-29 13:37                         ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-29 13:44                           ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-29 14:21                             ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-29 11:22                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-26 22:06     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-29  8:23       ` Bruce Richardson
2022-08-29 13:16       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-30 10:26       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25 15:28   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25 15:28   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] doc: add howto guide for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Kevin Laatz
2022-09-01 14:39   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-01 14:39   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-09-01 14:39   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] doc: add howto guide for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-02 15:58 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Kevin Laatz
2022-09-02 15:58   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-03 13:33     ` Jerin Jacob
2022-09-06  9:37       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-02 15:58   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-09-02 15:58   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] doc: add howto guide for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:19 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:19   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:48     ` Morten Brørup
2022-09-13 13:19   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:19   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] app/test: add unit tests for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:19   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] doc: add howto guide " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14  9:29 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14  9:29   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14 14:30     ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-09-16 12:35       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-19 10:19     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-09-22 17:14       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-26  9:37         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-09-29 12:41           ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-30 12:32             ` Jerin Jacob
2022-10-01 14:17             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-10-03 20:02               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-04  9:15                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-04 11:57                   ` Bruce Richardson
2022-10-04 14:26                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-04 23:30                     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-09-30 22:13     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-14  9:29   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14  9:29   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] app/test: add unit tests for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-30 22:20     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-14  9:29   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] doc: add howto guide " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14 14:33   ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Stephen Hemminger
2022-09-16 12:35     ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-16 14:10       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-10-05 13:44   ` Kevin Laatz
2022-10-06 13:25     ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-06 15:26       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-10 15:22         ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-10 17:38           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-12 12:25             ` Morten Brørup

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