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From: Feifei Wang <Feifei.Wang2@arm.com>
To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, nd <nd@arm.com>,
	Ruifeng Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: [dpdk-dev] 回复:  [PATCH v1 1/2] app/test: remove unnecessary barriers for ring stress test
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:48:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBBPR08MB4411DE3C7A998CC2B96C56A2C8B69@DBBPR08MB4411.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBAPR08MB5814A278D82F180C1B0F68D398B89@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Sorry, a mistake happens in the picture, after Wrk_cmd == WRK_CMD_RUN, it should be a rmb rather than wmb.

> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
> 发送时间: 2021年1月30日 9:24
> 收件人: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> 抄送: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Feifei Wang
> <Feifei.Wang2@arm.com>; dev@dpdk.org; nd <nd@arm.com>; Ruifeng
> Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
> 主题: RE: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/2] app/test: remove unnecessary barriers
> for ring stress test
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Feifei,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The variable "wrk_cmd" is a signal to control threads from
> > > > > > > running and stopping. When worker lcores load "wrk_cmd ==
> > > > WRK_CMD_RUN",
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > start
> > > > > > > running and when worker lcores load "wrk_cmd ==
> > > > > > > WRK_CMD_STOP",
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > stop.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For the wmb in test_mt1, no storing operations must keep the
> > > > > > > order after storing "wrk_cmd". Thus the wmb is unnecessary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think there is a bug in my original code, we should do
> > > > > > smp_wmb()
> > > > > > *before* setting wrk_cmd, not after:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >         /* launch on all workers */
> > > > > >         RTE_LCORE_FOREACH_WORKER(lc) {
> > > > > >                 arg[lc].rng = r;
> > > > > >                 arg[lc].stats = init_stat;
> > > > > >                 rte_eal_remote_launch(test, &arg[lc], lc);
> > > > > >         }
> > > > > >
> > > > > >         /* signal worker to start test */
> > > > > > +      rte_smp_wmb();
> > > > > >         wrk_cmd = WRK_CMD_RUN;
> > > > > > -       rte_smp_wmb();
> > > > > >
> > > > > >         usleep(run_time * US_PER_S);
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I still think we'd better have some synchronisation here.
> > > > > > Otherwise what would prevent compiler and/or cpu to update
> > > > > > wrk_cmd out of order (before _init_ phase is completed)?
> > > > > > We probably can safely assume no reordering from the compiler
> > > > > > here, as we have function calls straight before and after
> > > > > > 'wrk_cmd =
> > > > WRK_CMD_RUN;'
> > > > > > But for consistency and easier maintenance, I still think it
> > > > > > is better to have something here, after all it is not
> > > > > > performance critical
> > pass.
> > > > > Agree that this is not performance critical.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is more about correctness (as usually people refer to code
> > > > > to understand the concepts). You can refer to video [1].
> > > > > Essentially, the pthread_create has 'happens-before' behavior.
> > > > > i.e. all the memory operations before the pthread_create are
> > > > > visible to the new
> > thread.
> > > > > The
> > > > > rte_smp_rmb() barrier in the thread function is not required as
> > > > > it reads the
> > > > data that was set before the thread was launched.
> > > >
> > > > rte_eal_remote_launch() doesn't call pthread_create().
> > > > All it does -  updates global variable (lcore_config) and
> > > > writes/reads to/from the pipe.
> > > >
> > > Thanks for the reminder ☹
> > > I think rte_eal_remote_launch and rte_eal_wait_lcore need to provide
> > behavior similar to pthread_launch and pthread_join respectively.
> > >
> > > There is use of rte_smp_*mb in those functions as well. Those need
> > > to be fixed
> > first and then look at these.
> >
> > Looks like you want __atomic_thread_fence() here.
> >
> In the rte_eal_remote_launch case, all the memory operations before the
> API call need to be visible to the worker. If this is the only requirement, we
> can use the function pointer as the guard variable and use store-release. In
> the eal_thread_loop function we could do load-acquire on the function
> pointer.
> 
> I do not think that there is a requirement to ensure that the memory
> operations after the API call do not happen before the worker thread starts
> running the function (As there is no guarantee on when the worker thread
> will run. If the main thread needs to know if the worker thread is running
> explicit hand-shaking needs to happen).
> 
> The rte_eal_wait_lcore API needs to ensure that the memory operations in
> the worker are visible to the main. rte_eal_wait_lcore and eal_thread_loop
> are synchronizing using lcore_config[worker_id].state. I need to understand
> what else 'state' is used for. If there are no issues, we can do a store-release
> on 'state' in eal_thread_loop and a load-acquire in rte_eal_wait_lcore.
> 
> So, we do not have to use the __atomic_thread_fence.
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-01  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-22  6:30 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/2] remove smp barriers in app/test Feifei Wang
2020-12-22  6:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/2] app/test: remove unnecessary barriers for ring stress test Feifei Wang
2020-12-22 12:42   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-01-27 23:00     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-01-28 14:43       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-01-29  3:17         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-01-29  4:58           ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-01-30  1:24             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-02-01  8:37               ` [dpdk-dev] 回复: " Feifei Wang
2021-02-01 13:50                 ` [dpdk-dev] " Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-02-03 16:24                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-02-01  8:48               ` Feifei Wang [this message]
2021-02-01  9:07                 ` [dpdk-dev] 回复: " Feifei Wang
2020-12-22  6:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 2/2] app/test: collect perf data after worker threads exit Feifei Wang
2021-03-10  2:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/1] remove smp barriers in app/test Feifei Wang
2021-03-10  2:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/1] test/trace: collect perf data after worker threads exit Feifei Wang
2021-03-10  2:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/1] remove smp barriers in app/test Feifei Wang
2021-03-10  2:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/1] test/trace: collect perf data after worker threads exit Feifei Wang
2021-04-14 14:14     ` David Marchand

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