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From: "Wodkowski, PawelX" <pawelx.wodkowski@intel.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] Change alarm cancel function to thread-safe:
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:01:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F6F2A6264E145F47A18AB6DF8E87425D12B39F15@IRSMSX102.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140926134014.GB3930@hmsreliant.think-freely.org>

> > > Maybe I don't see something obvious? :)
> 
> I think you're missing the fact that your patch doesn't do what you assert above
> either :)

Issue is not in setting alarms but canceling it. If you look closer to my patch you
see that it address this issue (look at added *do { lock(); ....; unlock(); } while( )* 
part).

> 
> First, lets address rte_alarm_set.  There is no notion of "re-arming" in this
> alarm implementation, because theres no ability to refer to a specific alarm
> from the callers perspective.  When you call rte_eal_alarm_set you get a new
> alarm every time.  So I don't really see a race there.  It might not be exactly
> the behavior you want, but its not a race, becuase you're not modifying an
> alarm
> in the middle of execution, you're just creating a new alarm, which is safe.

OK, it is safe, but this is not the case.

> 
> There is a race in what you describe above, insofar as its possible that you
> might call rte_eal_alarm_cancel and return without having canceled all the
> matching alarms.  I don't see any clear documentation on what the behavior is
> supposed to be, but if you want to ensure that all matching alarms are cancelled
> or complete on return from rte_eal_alarm_cancel, thats perfectly fine (in linux
> API parlance, thats usually denoted as a cancel_sync operation).

Again, look at the patch. I changed documentation to inform about this behavior.

> 
> For that race condition, you're correct, my patch doesn't address it, I see that
> now.  Though your patch doesn't either.  If you call rte_eal_alarm_cancel from
> within a callback function, then, by definition, you can't wait on the
> completion of the active alarm, because thats a deadlock.  Its a necessecary
> evil, I grant you, but it means that you can't be guaranteed the cancelled and
> complete (cancel_sync) behavior that you want, at least not with the current
> api.  If you want that behavior, you need to do one of two things:

This patch does not break any API. It only removes undefined behavior.

> 
> 1) Modify the api to allow callers to individually reference timer instances, so
> that when cancelling, we can return an appropriate return code to indicate to
> the caller that this alarm is in-progress.  That way you can guarantee the
> caller that the specific alarm that you cancelled is either complete and cancelled
> or currently executing.  Add an api to expicitly wait on a referenced alarm as
> well.  This allows developers to know that, when executing an alarm callback, an
> -ECURRENTLYEXECUTING return code is ok, because they are in the currently
> executing context.

This would brake API for sure.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-26 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-25 12:56 Michal Jastrzebski
2014-09-25 13:11 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-25 15:08 ` Neil Horman
2014-09-25 16:03   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-25 17:23     ` Neil Horman
2014-09-25 23:24       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-26 11:46         ` Neil Horman
2014-09-26 12:37           ` Wodkowski, PawelX
2014-09-26 13:40             ` Neil Horman
2014-09-26 14:01               ` Wodkowski, PawelX [this message]
2014-09-26 15:01                 ` Neil Horman
2014-09-26 15:41                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-26 16:21                     ` Neil Horman
2014-09-26 18:07                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-26 19:39                         ` Neil Horman
2014-09-28 16:12                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-28 20:47                             ` Neil Horman
2014-09-29  6:40                               ` Wodkowski, PawelX
2014-09-29  9:50                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-29 10:11                                   ` Wodkowski, PawelX
2014-09-29 10:33                                     ` Bruce Richardson
2014-09-30 11:13                                       ` Wodkowski, PawelX
2014-09-30 12:05                                         ` Wodkowski, PawelX
2014-09-30 12:30                                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-30 12:54                                             ` Neil Horman
2014-09-29 11:35                                     ` Neil Horman
2014-09-26 14:13               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-09-29 10:37                 ` Bruce Richardson
2014-09-26  6:33       ` Wodkowski, PawelX
2014-09-26  9:49         ` Wodkowski, PawelX
2014-09-26 13:43         ` Neil Horman

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