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From: Dekel Peled <dekelp@nvidia.com>
To: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>, Maxime Leroy <maxime.leroy@6wind.com>,
	NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "ferruh.yigit@intel.com" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"arybchenko@solarflare.com" <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ethdev: add VLAN attributes to ETH and VLAN items
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 14:01:33 +0000
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In-Reply-To: <MN2PR12MB42868677F164E414E9121D38D60A0@MN2PR12MB4286.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks, PSB.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 3:14 PM
> To: Maxime Leroy <maxime.leroy@6wind.com>; Dekel Peled
> <dekelp@nvidia.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon
> <thomas@monjalon.net>
> Cc: ferruh.yigit@intel.com; arybchenko@solarflare.com; dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: RE: [PATCH] ethdev: add VLAN attributes to ETH and VLAN items
> 
> Sorry for jumping late,

Please note v2 of this patch is in ML since Oct. 1st.
We should continue the discussion on the latest thread.
More comments below.

> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Maxime Leroy <maxime.leroy@6wind.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 2:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH] ethdev: add VLAN attributes to ETH and VLAN items
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 11:37 AM Dekel Peled <dekelp@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, PSB.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Maxime Leroy <maxime.leroy@6wind.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 3:39 PM
> > > > To: Dekel Peled <dekelp@nvidia.com>
> > > > Cc: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon
> > > > <thomas@monjalon.net>; ferruh.yigit@intel.com;
> > > > arybchenko@solarflare.com; dev@dpdk.org; Dekel Peled
> > > > <dekelp@mellanox.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] ethdev: add VLAN attributes to ETH and VLAN
> > > > items
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dekel,
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:49 PM Dekel Peled <dekelp@nvidia.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Dekel Peled <dekelp@mellanox.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > This patch implements the change proposes in RFC [1], adding
> > > > > dedicated fields to ETH and VLAN items structs, to clearly
> > > > > define the required characteristic of a packet, and enable precise
> match criteria.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
> > > > mail
> > > > > s.dpdk.org%2Farchives%2Fdev%2F2020-
> > > > August%2F177536.html&amp;data=02%7C
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> 01%7Cdekelp%40nvidia.com%7Cc12bfd3f662747f7b7c408d866d0376f%7C430
> > > > 83d15
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> 727340c1b7db39efd9ccc17a%7C0%7C0%7C637372391779092411&amp;sdata=
> > > > yeOKvc
> > > > >
> 4r0dL09UZ65%2Bt4qWJqJmcp21VyPSK%2FhbablKI%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Dekel Peled <dekelp@mellanox.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  doc/guides/rel_notes/release_20_11.rst |  7 +++++++
> > > > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h           | 16 +++++++++++++---
> > > > >  2 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/doc/guides/rel_notes/release_20_11.rst
> > > > > b/doc/guides/rel_notes/release_20_11.rst
> > > > > index 7f9d0dd..199c60b 100644
> > > > > --- a/doc/guides/rel_notes/release_20_11.rst
> > > > > +++ b/doc/guides/rel_notes/release_20_11.rst
> > > > > @@ -173,6 +173,13 @@ API Changes
> > > > >    * ``_rte_eth_dev_callback_process()`` ->
> > > > ``rte_eth_dev_callback_process()``
> > > > >    * ``_rte_eth_dev_reset`` -> ``rte_eth_dev_internal_reset()``
> > > > >
> > > > > +* ethdev: Added new field ``vlan_exist`` to structure
> > > > > +``rte_flow_item_eth``,
> > > > > +  indicating that at least one VLAN exists in the packet header.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +* ethdev: Added new field ``more_vlans_exist`` to structure
> > > > > +  ``rte_flow_item_vlan``, indicating that at least one more
> > > > > +VLAN exists in
> > > > > +  packet header, following this VLAN.
> > > > > +
> > > > >  * rawdev: Added a structure size parameter to the functions
> > > > >    ``rte_rawdev_queue_setup()``, ``rte_rawdev_queue_conf_get()``,
> > > > >    ``rte_rawdev_info_get()`` and ``rte_rawdev_configure()``,
> > > > > diff --git a/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h
> > > > > b/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h index da8bfa5..39d04ef 100644
> > > > > --- a/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h
> > > > > +++ b/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h
> > > > > @@ -723,14 +723,18 @@ struct rte_flow_item_raw {
> > > > >   * If the @p type field contains a TPID value, then only tagged
> > > > > packets
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > >   * specified TPID will match the pattern.
> > > > >   * Otherwise, only untagged packets will match the pattern.
> > > > > - * If the @p ETH item is the only item in the pattern, and the
> > > > > @p type field
> > > > > - * is not specified, then both tagged and untagged packets will
> > > > > match the
> > > > > - * pattern.
> > > > > + * The field @p vlan_exist can be used to match specific packet
> > > > > + types, instead
> > > > > + * of using the @p type field.
> > > > > + * This can be used to match any type of tagged packets.
> > > > > + * If the @p type and @p vlan_exist fields are not specified,
> > > > > + then both tagged
> > > > > + * and untagged packets will match the pattern.
> > > > >   */
> > > > >  struct rte_flow_item_eth {
> > > > >         struct rte_ether_addr dst; /**< Destination MAC. */
> > > > >         struct rte_ether_addr src; /**< Source MAC. */
> > > > >         rte_be16_t type; /**< EtherType or TPID. */
> > > > > +       uint32_t vlan_exist:1; /**< At least one VLAN exist in header. */
> > > > > +       uint32_t reserved:31; /**< Reserved, must be zero. */
> > > > >  };
> > > >
> > > > To resume:
> > > > - type and vlan_exists fields not specified:  tag and untagged
> > > > matched
> > > > - with vlan_exists, match only tag or untagged
> > > > - with type matching specific ethernet type
> > > > - vlan_exists and type should not setted at the same time ?
> > >
> > > PMD should validate they don't conflict.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > With this new specification, I think you address all the use cases.
> > > > That's great !
> > > >
> > >
> > > Glad to see we agree on this.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  /** Default mask for RTE_FLOW_ITEM_TYPE_ETH. */ @@ -752,10
> > +756,16
> > > > @@
> > > > > struct rte_flow_item_eth {
> > > > >   * the preceding pattern item.
> > > > >   * If a @p VLAN item is present in the pattern, then only
> > > > > tagged packets
> > > > will
> > > > >   * match the pattern.
> > > > > + * The field @p more_vlans_exist can be used to match specific
> > > > > + packet types,
> > > > > + * instead of using the @p inner_type field.
> > > > > + * This can be used to match any type of tagged packets.
> > > > >   */
> > > >
> > > > Could you please specify what the expected behavior when
> > > > inner_type and more_vlans_exist are not specified .
> > > > What is the default behavior ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > You wrote above for the eth item, if the user didn't specify it
> > > means don't-
> > care.
> > Could you please add the same comment for the vlan pattern ?

I will send v3 with added description.

> >
> > >
> > > > >  struct rte_flow_item_vlan {
> > > > >         rte_be16_t tci; /**< Tag control information. */
> > > > >         rte_be16_t inner_type; /**< Inner EtherType or TPID. */
> > > > > +       uint32_t more_vlans_exist:1;
> > > > > +       /**< At least one more VLAN exist in header, following this
> VLAN. */
> > > > > +       uint32_t reserved:31; /**< Reserved, must be zero. */
> > > > >  };
> > > > >
> > > > >  /** Default mask for RTE_FLOW_ITEM_TYPE_VLAN. */
> > > > > --
> > > > > 1.8.3.1
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am still wondering, why not using a new item 'NOT' for example
> > > > to match only eth packet not tagged ?
> > > > example: eth / not vlan. It's a more generic solution.
> > > >
> > > > Here in this commit, we add a reference on VLAN fields on ethernet
> > header.
> > > > But tomorrow, we could do the same for mpls by adding mpls_exists
> > > > in the eth item and so on.
> > > >
> > > > In fact, we  have the same needs for IPv6 options. To match for
> > > > example,
> > > > ipv6 packet with no fragment option.
> > > > With a NOT field, it can be easily done: > eth / ipv6 / no ipv6_frag.
> > > >
> > > > Adding new fields 'item'_exists into eth and ipv6 do the jobs, but
> > > > having a NOT attribute is a more generic solution.
> > > >
> > > > It could address many other use cases like matching any udp
> > > > packets that
> > are
> > > > not vxlan ( eth / ipv4 / vxlan / not udp),
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you think about that.
> > >
> > > I agree with Thomas Monjalon response on this.
> >
> > RTE_FLOW pattern is here to have a generic way to describe a flow.
> >
> > Of course, hardware nics don't need to support any type of pattern.
> > It's why we have rte_flow_validate functions to be sure that the
> > hardware can match this type of pattern.
> >
> > For example, the not attribute could be only supported for vlan item
> > with mlx5 nics. (i.e. eth / not vlan).
> >
> > When a user adds a flow with a pattern including a not attribute, if
> > the pmd doesn't support it, it should return -ENOTSUP.
> >
> > Later, if we add support of not attribute with mpls (i.e. eth / not
> > mpls) in mlx5 pmd, modification can be done on the pmd side, without
> > any API changes.
> >
> > You are already adding new '_exits' fields in IPv6 item. It's why I
> > think having a generic solution like a NOT attribute, it's a better
> > solution.
> >
> > If we continue to add '_exists' fields in each item (like you are
> > doing with IPv6 item), I think we will need to do an API rework to
> > have a generic solution.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Maxime
> 
> First I'm all in favor of adding a not item, but it is very tricky and should be
> designed very carefully.
> Also using a not will get the rules to be very complicated.
> For example think about the following case:
> Application want only packets without any extensions, using the suggested
> API it is very simple just set exits = 0 with mask = 1.
> While if we use the not I'm not sure how it should look, since we need
> number of not, it is not just enough to say next proto is not XXX since we
> need to cover all possible extensions, also there might be ordering issue
> which the not can't support.
> 
> So my thinking is that we should go with the suggested approach and
> regardless see how can we add the not.
> 
> In any case the exit should not be the goto solution but again in case of
> extension it make sense since order is not guaranteed.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Best,
> Ori
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-07 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-01 18:49 Dekel Peled
2020-10-01 19:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Dekel Peled
2020-10-07 18:21   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Dekel Peled
2020-10-02 12:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " Maxime Leroy
2020-10-02 14:40   ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-05  9:37   ` Dekel Peled
2020-10-07 11:52     ` Maxime Leroy
2020-10-07 12:13       ` Ori Kam
2020-10-07 14:01         ` Dekel Peled [this message]
2020-10-14 18:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] support VLAN attributes in " Dekel Peled
2020-10-14 18:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] ethdev: add VLAN attributes to " Dekel Peled
2020-10-14 20:13     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-15 10:34     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-15 15:06       ` Dekel Peled
2020-10-14 18:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] app/testpmd: support VLAN attributes in " Dekel Peled
2020-10-15  6:09     ` Ori Kam
2020-10-15 15:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] " Dekel Peled
2020-10-15 15:51   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] ethdev: add VLAN attributes to " Dekel Peled
2020-10-15 16:11     ` Ori Kam
2020-10-15 15:51   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] app/testpmd: support VLAN attributes in " Dekel Peled
2020-10-15 23:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] " Ferruh Yigit

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