From: Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage <wathsala.vithanage@arm.com>,
Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>,
Ruifeng Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, nd <nd@arm.com>,
Dhruv Tripathi <Dhruv.Tripathi@arm.com>,
Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
Jack Bond-Preston <jack.bond-preston@foss.arm.com>,
Nick Connolly <Nick.Connolly@arm.com>,
Vinod Krishna <Vinod.Krishna@arm.com>,
"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] eal: add Arm WFET in power management intrinsics
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:10:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR18MB4086E30D9938DD92709D4806DEDF2@PH0PR18MB4086.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3741901.S9oNm88NmQ@thomas>
> 04/07/2024 16:55, Stephen Hemminger:
> > On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 16:14:42 +0200
> > Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Let’s ask Pavan why this flag is used in cn10k driver.
> > > > >
> > > > > From our perspective, WFE is available on all the supported arm
> platforms in
> > > > > DPDK.
> > > > > Therefore, RTE_ARM_USE_WFE should be treated as a flag to choose
> between
> > > > > WFE
> > > > > and non-WFE code paths due to performance reasons rather than as a
> flag
> > > > > that indicates
> > > > > the availability of the instruction on the target CPU.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are using this flag to allow application to choose between WFE and
> non-WFE code path.
> > > > The non-WFE path performs slightly better.
> > >
> > > What's the benefit of the WFE path then?
> >
> > WFE saves power at the expense of latency.
>
> Yes maybe there is a misunderstanding.
> Pavan can you confirm you were saying "throughput is better on non-WFE"?
> but "power consumption is lower on WFE path"?
>
Yes, throughput is better on non-WFE and power consumption is lower on WFE path.
But the statement cant be generalized for all use-cases, it depends on lot of factors.
So, we use RTE_ARM_USE_WFE to allow applications to decide what they want.
> > Maybe some form of hybrid approach would work best and could
> > be always used.
> >
> > For example, many implementations of mutex do a short spin poll
> > then fall back to a waiting primitive (like futex).
This is already done across cnxk drivers and common layer I believe.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-05 16:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-04 4:44 [PATCH 1/2] config/arm: adds Arm Neoverse N3 SoC Wathsala Vithanage
2024-06-04 4:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] eal: add Arm WFET in power management intrinsics Wathsala Vithanage
2024-06-04 15:41 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-19 6:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] config/arm: adds Arm Neoverse N3 SoC Wathsala Vithanage
2024-06-19 6:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] eal: add Arm WFET in power management intrinsics Wathsala Vithanage
2024-06-27 15:30 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-07-01 21:34 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-07-02 8:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-07-03 13:27 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-07-03 13:33 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-07-03 16:58 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-07-04 10:55 ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2024-07-04 14:14 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-07-04 14:55 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-07-04 18:59 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-07-05 16:10 ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula [this message]
2024-07-07 17:37 ` [EXTERNAL] " Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-07-05 16:01 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-07-05 16:11 ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2024-07-05 16:25 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-07-03 16:19 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-07-15 22:53 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] eal: expand the availability of WFE and related instructions Wathsala Vithanage
2024-07-15 22:53 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] config/arm: adds Arm Neoverse N3 SoC Wathsala Vithanage
2024-07-16 1:52 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-07-15 22:53 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] eal: add Arm WFET in power management intrinsics Wathsala Vithanage
2024-07-15 22:53 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] eal: describe Arm CPU features including WFXT Wathsala Vithanage
2024-07-16 1:02 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-07-26 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] eal: expand the availability of WFE and related instructions Wathsala Vithanage
2024-07-26 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] config/arm: adds Arm Neoverse N3 SoC Wathsala Vithanage
2024-07-26 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] eal: add Arm WFET in power management intrinsics Wathsala Vithanage
2024-07-26 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] eal: describe Arm CPU features including WFXT Wathsala Vithanage
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