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From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"stephen@networkplumber.org" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"paulmck@linux.ibm.com" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: "Wang, Yipeng1" <yipeng1.wang@intel.com>,
	"Medvedkin, Vladimir" <vladimir.medvedkin@intel.com>,
	"Ruifeng Wang (Arm Technology China)" <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>,
	Dharmik Thakkar <Dharmik.Thakkar@arm.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] lib/ring: add peek API
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 04:25:37 +0000
Message-ID: <VE1PR08MB5149988C9B8B2E9A556C5EAE98950@VE1PR08MB5149.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772580191971EBE@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com>

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> 
> >
> > > > Subject: [PATCH v3 1/3] lib/ring: add peek API
> > > >
> > > > From: Ruifeng Wang <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>
> > > >
> > > > The peek API allows fetching the next available object in the ring
> > > > without dequeuing it. This helps in scenarios where dequeuing of
> > > > objects depend on their value.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Dharmik Thakkar <dharmik.thakkar@arm.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Ruifeng Wang <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Gavin Hu <gavin.hu@arm.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  lib/librte_ring/rte_ring.h | 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 30 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/lib/librte_ring/rte_ring.h
> > > > b/lib/librte_ring/rte_ring.h index 2a9f768a1..d3d0d5e18 100644
> > > > --- a/lib/librte_ring/rte_ring.h
> > > > +++ b/lib/librte_ring/rte_ring.h
> > > > @@ -953,6 +953,36 @@ rte_ring_dequeue_burst(struct rte_ring *r,
> > > > void
> > > **obj_table,
> > > >  				r->cons.single, available);
> > > >  }
> > > >
> > > > +/**
> > > > + * Peek one object from a ring.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * The peek API allows fetching the next available object in the
> > > > +ring
> > > > + * without dequeuing it. This API is not multi-thread safe with
> > > > +respect
> > > > + * to other consumer threads.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * @param r
> > > > + *   A pointer to the ring structure.
> > > > + * @param obj_p
> > > > + *   A pointer to a void * pointer (object) that will be filled.
> > > > + * @return
> > > > + *   - 0: Success, object available
> > > > + *   - -ENOENT: Not enough entries in the ring.
> > > > + */
> > > > +__rte_experimental
> > > > +static __rte_always_inline int
> > > > +rte_ring_peek(struct rte_ring *r, void **obj_p)
> > >
> > > As it is not MT safe, then I think we need _sc_ in the name, to
> > > follow other rte_ring functions naming conventions
> > > (rte_ring_sc_peek() or so).
> > Agree
> >
> > >
> > > As a better alternative what do you think about introducing a
> > > serialized versions of DPDK rte_ring dequeue functions?
> > > Something like that:
> > >
> > > /* same as original ring dequeue, but:
> > >   * 1) move cons.head only if cons.head == const.tail
> > >   * 2) don't update cons.tail
> > >   */
> > > unsigned int
> > > rte_ring_serial_dequeue_bulk(struct rte_ring *r, void **obj_table,
> > > unsigned int n,
> > >                 unsigned int *available);
> > >
> > > /* sets both cons.head and cons.tail to cons.head + num */ void
> > > rte_ring_serial_dequeue_finish(struct rte_ring *r, uint32_t num);
> > >
> > > /* resets cons.head to const.tail value */ void
> > > rte_ring_serial_dequeue_abort(struct rte_ring *r);
> > >
> > > Then your dq_reclaim cycle function will look like that:
> > >
> > > const uint32_t nb_elt =  dq->elt_size/8 + 1; uint32_t avl, n;
> > > uintptr_t elt[nb_elt]; ...
> > >
> > > do {
> > >
> > >   /* read next elem from the queue */
> > >   n = rte_ring_serial_dequeue_bulk(dq->r, elt, nb_elt, &avl);
> > >   if (n == 0)
> > >       break;
> > >
> > >  /* wrong period, keep elem in the queue */  if
> > > (rte_rcu_qsbr_check(dr->v,
> > > elt[0]) != 1) {
> > >      rte_ring_serial_dequeue_abort(dq->r);
> > >      break;
> > >   }
> > >
> > >   /* can reclaim, remove elem from the queue */
> > >   rte_ring_serial_dequeue_finish(dr->q, nb_elt);
> > >
> > >    /*call reclaim function */
> > >   dr->f(dr->p, elt);
> > >
> > > } while (avl >= nb_elt);
> > >
> > > That way, I think even rte_rcu_qsbr_dq_reclaim() can be MT safe.
> > > As long as actual reclamation callback itself is MT safe of course.
> >
> > I think it is a great idea. The other writers would still be polling
> > for the current writer to update the tail or update the head. This makes it a
> blocking solution.
> 
> Yep, it is a blocking one.
> 
> > We can make the other threads not poll i.e. they will quit reclaiming if they
> see that other writers are dequeuing from the queue.
> 
> Actually didn't think about that possibility, but yes should be possible to have
> _try_ semantics too.
> 
> >The other  way is to use per thread queues.
> >
> > The other requirement I see is to support unbounded-size data
> > structures where in the data structures do not have a pre-determined
> > number of entries. Also, currently the defer queue size is equal to the total
> number of entries in a given data structure. There are plans to support
> dynamically resizable defer queue. This means, memory allocation which will
> affect the lock-free-ness of the solution.
> >
> > So, IMO:
> > 1) The API should provide the capability to support different algorithms -
> may be through some flags?
> > 2) The requirements for the ring are pretty unique to the problem we
> > have here (for ex: move the cons-head only if cons-tail is also the same, skip
> polling). So, we should probably implement a ring with-in the RCU library?
> 
> Personally, I think such serialization ring API would be useful for other cases
> too.
> There are few cases when user need to read contents of the queue without
> removing elements from it.
> Let say we do use similar approach inside TLDK to implement TCP transmit
> queue.
> If such API would exist in DPDK we can just use it straightway, without
> maintaining a separate one.
ok

> 
> >
> > From the timeline perspective, adding all these capabilities would be
> > difficult to get done with in 19.11 timeline. What I have here
> > satisfies my current needs. I suggest that we make provisions in APIs now to
> support all these features, but do the implementation in the coming releases.
> Does this sound ok for you?
> 
> Not sure I understand your suggestion here...
> Could you explain it a bit more - how new API will look like and what would
> be left for the future.
For this patch, I suggest we do not add any more complexity. If someone wants a lock-free/block-free mechanism, it is available by creating per thread defer queues.

We push the following to the future:
1) Dynamically size adjustable defer queue. IMO, with this, the lock-free/block-free reclamation will not be available (memory allocation requires locking). The memory for the defer queue will be allocated/freed in chunks of 'size' elements as the queue grows/shrinks.

2) Constant size defer queue with lock-free and block-free reclamation (single option). The defer queue will be of fixed length 'size'. If the queue gets full an error is returned. The user could provide a 'size' equal to the number of elements in a data structure to ensure queue never gets full.

I would add a 'flags' field in rte_rcu_qsbr_dq_parameters and provide 2 #defines, one for dynamically variable size defer queue and the other for constant size defer queue.

However, IMO, using per thread defer queue is a much simpler way to achieve 2. It does not add any significant burden to the user either.

> 
> >
> > >
> > > > +{
> > > > +	uint32_t prod_tail = r->prod.tail;
> > > > +	uint32_t cons_head = r->cons.head;
> > > > +	uint32_t count = (prod_tail - cons_head) & r->mask;
> > > > +	unsigned int n = 1;
> > > > +	if (count) {
> > > > +		DEQUEUE_PTRS(r, &r[1], cons_head, obj_p, n, void *);
> > > > +		return 0;
> > > > +	}
> > > > +	return -ENOENT;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > >  #ifdef __cplusplus
> > > >  }
> > > >  #endif
> > > > --
> > > > 2.17.1


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-09  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-22  6:34 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Ruifeng Wang
2019-08-22  6:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/3] doc/rcu: add RCU integration design details Ruifeng Wang
2019-08-22  6:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/3] lib/ring: add peek API Ruifeng Wang
2019-08-22  6:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 3/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2019-08-23  1:23   ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-08-26  3:11     ` Ruifeng Wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-08-26  5:32       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-08-22 15:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-09-06  9:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] " Ruifeng Wang
2019-09-06  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] doc/rcu: add RCU integration design details Ruifeng Wang
2019-09-06 19:44     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-09-06  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] lib/ring: add peek API Ruifeng Wang
2019-09-06  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2019-09-06 19:44     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-09-18 16:15     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2019-09-19  6:17       ` Ruifeng Wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-09-06  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] app/test: add test case for LPM RCU integration Ruifeng Wang
2019-09-06 19:45     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-09-06  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] test/lpm: reset total time Ruifeng Wang
2019-09-18 16:17     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2019-09-19  6:22       ` Ruifeng Wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-09-06  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Ruifeng Wang
2019-09-06 19:46     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-01  6:29   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] Add RCU reclamation APIs Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-01  6:29     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] lib/ring: add peek API Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-02 18:42       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-03 19:49         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-07  9:01           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-09  4:25             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli [this message]
2019-10-10 15:09               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-11  5:03                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-11 14:41                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-11 18:28                     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-13 20:09                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-14  4:11                         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-01  6:29     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] lib/rcu: add resource reclamation APIs Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-02 17:39       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-03  6:29         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-03 12:26           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-04  6:07             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-07 10:46               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-13  4:35                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-02 18:50       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-03  6:42         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-03 11:52           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-04 19:01       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2019-10-07 13:11       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2019-10-13  3:02         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-15 16:48           ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2019-10-18  3:47             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-01  6:29     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] doc/rcu: add RCU integration design details Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-03-29 20:57     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] Add RCU reclamation APIs Thomas Monjalon
2020-03-30 17:37       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-03 18:41     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] " Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-03 18:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] lib/rcu: add resource " Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-07 17:39         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-04-19 23:22           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-20  8:19             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-04-03 18:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] test/rcu: test cases for RCU defer queue APIs Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-03 18:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] doc/rcu: add RCU integration design details Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-03 18:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] lib/rcu: add additional debug logs Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-22  3:30     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] Add RCU reclamation APIs Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-22  3:30       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] lib/rcu: add resource " Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-22  8:36         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-04-22  8:42           ` David Marchand
2020-04-22  8:51             ` David Marchand
2020-04-22  9:26               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-04-22  3:30       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] test/rcu: test cases for RCU defer queue APIs Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-22  8:27         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-04-22  3:30       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] doc/rcu: add RCU integration design details Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-22  3:30       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] lib/rcu: add additional debug logs Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-22  8:25         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-04-22 18:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] Add RCU reclamation APIs David Marchand
2019-10-01 18:28   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-01 18:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-04 16:05       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2019-10-09  3:48         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-07  9:21       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-13  4:36         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-15 11:15           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-18  3:32             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-01 18:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] app/test: add test case for LPM RCU integration Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-01 18:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-02 13:02       ` Aaron Conole
2019-10-03  9:09         ` Bruce Richardson
2020-06-08  5:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-08  5:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-08 18:46       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-06-18 17:36         ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-06-18 17:21       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-06-22  5:46         ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-23  4:34           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-06-08  5:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] test/lpm: add LPM RCU integration functional tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-08  5:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-29  8:02   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-29  8:02     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-29 11:56       ` David Marchand
2020-06-29 12:55         ` Bruce Richardson
2020-06-30 10:35           ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-07-03  7:43         ` David Marchand
2020-07-04 17:00         ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-30 10:33       ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-06-29  8:02     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] test/lpm: add LPM RCU integration functional tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-06-29  8:03     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-07 14:40   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-07 14:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-07 14:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/3] test/lpm: add LPM RCU integration functional tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-07 14:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/3] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-07 15:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-07 15:15     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-08 12:36       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-08 14:30       ` David Marchand
2020-07-08 15:34         ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-07 15:15     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/3] test/lpm: add LPM RCU integration functional tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-08 12:37       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-08 14:00         ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-07 15:15     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/3] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-08 12:37       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-08 14:07         ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09  8:02   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09  8:02     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09 11:49       ` David Marchand
2020-07-09 14:35         ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09  8:02     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/3] test/lpm: add LPM RCU integration functional tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09  8:02     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/3] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09 15:42   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09 15:42     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09 15:42     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/3] test/lpm: add LPM RCU integration functional tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-09 15:42     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/3] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-10  2:22   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-10  2:22     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/3] lib/lpm: integrate RCU QSBR Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-10  2:29       ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-10  2:22     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/3] test/lpm: add LPM RCU integration functional tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-10  2:22     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/3] test/lpm: add RCU integration performance tests Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-10  2:29       ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-10 12:21     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/3] RCU integration with LPM library David Marchand
2020-07-10 14:34       ` Ruifeng Wang

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