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From: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>
To: Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Zhang, Helin" <helin.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx queue offloads API
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 06:59:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR05MB3149B7407E24C2FB4B09E34CC3690@VI1PR05MB3149.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d54be59c-c43c-33d4-66c1-71b88b883baa@solarflare.com>

September 12, 2017 9:43 AM, Andrew Rybchenko:

I think port level is the right place for these flags. These flags define which
transmit and transmit cleanup callbacks could be used. These functions are
specified on port level now. However, I see no good reasons to change it.

The Tx queue flags are not currently per-port  rather per-queue. The flags are provided as an input for tx_queue_setup.
Even though application and example in dpdk tree use identical flags for all queues it doesn’t mean application is not allowed to do otherwise.


It will complicate the possibility to make transmit and transmit cleanup callback
per queue (not per port as now).
All three (no-multi-seg, no-multi-mempool, no-reference-counter) are from
one group and should go together.


Even though the use-case is generic the nicvf PMD is the only one which do such optimization.

So am suggesting again - why not expose it as a PMD specific parameter?



Why to make it as PMD specific? if application can express it though

normative DPDK APIs.





- The application can express it wants such optimization.

- It is global



Currently it does not seems there is high demand for such flags from other PMDs. If such demand will raise, we can discuss again on how to expose it properly.



It is not PMD specific. It is all about where it runs? it will

applicable for any PMD that runs low end hardwares where it need SW

based Tx buffer recycling(The NPU is different story as it has HW

assisted mempool manager).

What we are loosing by running DPDK effectively on low end hardware

with such "on demand" runtime configuration though DPDK normative API.

+1 and it improves performance on amd64 as well, definitely less than 24%,
but noticeable. If application architecture meets these conditions, why don't
allow it use the advantage and run faster.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-12  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-04  7:12 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] ethdev: rename Rx and Tx configuration structs Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 12:06   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 12:45     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 12:13   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 13:25   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 13:53     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-04 14:18       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-05  7:48         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05  8:09           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-05 10:51             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-05 13:50               ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05 15:31               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-06  6:01                 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-06  9:33                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-13  9:27                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 11:16                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 12:41                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 12:56                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-13 13:20                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 21:42                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-14  8:02                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 10:31                                   ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 10:57                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-18 11:04                                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 11:27                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 11:04                                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 11:11                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-18 11:32                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 11:37                                             ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 14:27                                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 14:42                                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 14:44                                                 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 18:18                                                   ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 21:08                                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-19  7:33                                                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-19  7:56                                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 12:56                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 14:02     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 15:55       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-10 12:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 12:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 12:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 17:48     ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-09-11  5:52       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  6:21         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11  7:56           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  8:06             ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11  8:46               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  9:05                 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11 11:02                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-12  4:01                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  5:25                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12  5:51                         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  6:35                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12  6:46                             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  7:17                             ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  8:03                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12 10:27                                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12 14:26                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-12 14:36                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12 14:43                                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  6:43                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  6:59                             ` Shahaf Shuler [this message]
2017-09-11  8:03     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-11 12:27       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11 13:10         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  6:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  6:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:13       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:49         ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:49       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  9:13         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:33           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 12:34             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  6:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:40       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:51         ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  9:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev new " Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-17  6:54     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18  7:50         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] doc: add details on ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18  7:51         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-18 13:40         ` Mcnamara, John
2017-09-18  7:51       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] ethdev new " Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-28 18:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03  0:32           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-03  6:25             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 19:46               ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 19:50           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-04  8:06             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] doc: add details on ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:18           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] ethdev: add mbuf fast free Tx offload Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:18           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] doc: add details on ethdev offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 13:46             ` Mcnamara, John
2018-03-15  1:58             ` Patil, Harish
2018-03-15  6:05               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-16 15:51             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] doc: update new ethdev offload API description Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-17  0:16               ` Patil, Harish
2018-03-18  5:52               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21  9:47               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 10:54                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 11:08                   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:10                     ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 11:19                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:23                         ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 11:37                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:40                             ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 12:52                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 13:06                                 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 13:11                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 12:03                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 12:29                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 12:34                               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 12:37                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 14:08                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 14:28                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 14:40                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 15:26                         ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-21 15:29                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 15:44                             ` Bruce Richardson
2018-05-08 12:33               ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-04 16:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev new offloads API Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-05  0:55             ` Ferruh Yigit

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