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From: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
	"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Zhang, Helin" <helin.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx queue offloads API
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 05:25:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR05MB3149DA3533771F6CAC410FB7C3690@VI1PR05MB3149.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170912040107.GA8081@jerin>

Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:01 AM, Jerin Jacob:
> Yes, only when ETH_TXQ_FLAGS_NOMULTMEMP and
> ETH_TXQ_FLAGS_NOREFCOUNT selected at tx queue configuration.
> 
> >
> > So literally, yes it is not a TX HW offload, though I understand your
> > intention to have such possibility - it might help to save some cycles.
> 
> It not a few cycles. We could see ~24% drop on per core(with 64B) with
> testpmd and l3fwd on some SoCs. It is not very specific to nicvf HW, The
> problem is with limited cache hierarchy in very low end arm64 machines.
> For TX buffer recycling case, it need to touch the mbuf again to find out the
> associated mempool to free. It is fine if application demands it but not all the
> application demands it.
> 
> We have two category of arm64 machines, The high end machine where
> cache hierarchy similar x86 server machine. The low end ones with very
> limited cache resources. Unfortunately, we need to have the same binary on
> both machines.
> 
> 
> > Wonder would some new driver specific function would help in that case?
> > nicvf_txq_pool_setup(portid, queueid, struct rte_mempool *txpool,
> > uint32_t flags); or so?
> 
> It is possible, but how do we make such change in testpmd, l3fwd or ipsec-
> gw in tree application which does need only NOMULTIMEMP &
> NOREFCOUNT.
> 
> If there is concern about making it Tx queue level it is fine. We can move
> from queue level to port level or global level.
> IMO, Application should express in some form that it wants only
> NOMULTIMEMP & NOREFCOUNT and thats is the case for l3fwd and ipsec-
> gw
> 

I understand the use case, and the fact those flags improve the performance on low-end ARM CPUs.
IMO those flags cannot be on queue/port level. They must be global.

Even though the use-case is generic the nicvf PMD is the only one which do such optimization.
So am suggesting again - why not expose it as a PMD specific parameter?

- The application can express it wants such optimization. 
- It is global

Currently it does not seems there is high demand for such flags from other PMDs. If such demand will raise, we can discuss again on how to expose it properly.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-12  5:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-04  7:12 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] ethdev: rename Rx and Tx configuration structs Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 12:06   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 12:45     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 12:13   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 13:25   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 13:53     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-04 14:18       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-05  7:48         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05  8:09           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-05 10:51             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-05 13:50               ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05 15:31               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-06  6:01                 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-06  9:33                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-13  9:27                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 11:16                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 12:41                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 12:56                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-13 13:20                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 21:42                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-14  8:02                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 10:31                                   ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 10:57                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-18 11:04                                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 11:27                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 11:04                                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 11:11                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-18 11:32                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 11:37                                             ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 14:27                                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 14:42                                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 14:44                                                 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 18:18                                                   ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 21:08                                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-19  7:33                                                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-19  7:56                                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 12:56                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 14:02     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 15:55       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-10 12:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 12:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 12:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 17:48     ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-09-11  5:52       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  6:21         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11  7:56           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  8:06             ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11  8:46               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  9:05                 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11 11:02                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-12  4:01                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  5:25                       ` Shahaf Shuler [this message]
2017-09-12  5:51                         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  6:35                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12  6:46                             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  7:17                             ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  8:03                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12 10:27                                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12 14:26                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-12 14:36                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12 14:43                                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  6:43                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  6:59                             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  8:03     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-11 12:27       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11 13:10         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  6:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  6:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:13       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:49         ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:49       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  9:13         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:33           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 12:34             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  6:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:40       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:51         ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  9:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev new " Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-17  6:54     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18  7:50         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] doc: add details on ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18  7:51         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-18 13:40         ` Mcnamara, John
2017-09-18  7:51       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] ethdev new " Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-28 18:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03  0:32           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-03  6:25             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 19:46               ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 19:50           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-04  8:06             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] doc: add details on ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:18           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] ethdev: add mbuf fast free Tx offload Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:18           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] doc: add details on ethdev offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 13:46             ` Mcnamara, John
2018-03-15  1:58             ` Patil, Harish
2018-03-15  6:05               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-16 15:51             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] doc: update new ethdev offload API description Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-17  0:16               ` Patil, Harish
2018-03-18  5:52               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21  9:47               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 10:54                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 11:08                   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:10                     ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 11:19                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:23                         ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 11:37                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:40                             ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 12:52                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 13:06                                 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 13:11                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 12:03                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 12:29                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 12:34                               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 12:37                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 14:08                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 14:28                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 14:40                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 15:26                         ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-21 15:29                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 15:44                             ` Bruce Richardson
2018-05-08 12:33               ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-04 16:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev new offloads API Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-05  0:55             ` Ferruh Yigit

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