From: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"stephen@networkplumber.org" <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new offloads API
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 11:16:16 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR05MB3149F5E6787FC4ED0E01CD2DC36E0@VI1PR05MB3149.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2632317.9dDdYF2F86@xps>
Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:28 PM, Thomas Monjalon:
> I still think we must streamline ethdev API instead of complexifying.
> We should drop the big "configure everything" and configure offloads one by
> one, and per queue (the finer grain).
The issue is, that there is some functionality which cannot be achieved when configuring offload per queue.
For example - vlan filter on intel NICs. The PF can set it even without creating a single queue, in order to enable it for the VFs.
To make it right, such functionality resides on per-device offloads. However we cannot have such concept on ethdev layer.
Also not sure we want to modify the eal for that.
>
> More comments below
>
> 06/09/2017 11:33, Ananyev, Konstantin:
> > From: Shahaf Shuler [mailto:shahafs@mellanox.com]
> > > Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:31 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin:
>
> > > > > > > > > > In fact, right now it is possible to query/change
> > > > > > > > > > these 3 vlan offload flags on the fly (after
> > > > > > > > > > dev_start) on port basis by
> > > > > > rte_eth_dev_(get|set)_vlan_offload API.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding this API from ethdev.
> > > > >
> > > > > So this seems like a hack on ethdev. Currently there are 2 ways
> > > > > for user to
> > > > set Rx vlan offloads.
> > > > > One is through dev_configure which require the ports to be
> > > > > stopped. The
> > > > other is this API which can set even if the port is started.
> > > >
> > > > Yes there is an ability to enable/disable VLAN offloads without
> > > > stop/reconfigure the device.
> > > > Though I wouldn't call it 'a hack'.
> > > > From my perspective - it is a useful feature.
> > > > Same as it is possible in some cases to change MTU without
> > > > stopping device, etc.
>
> I think the function rte_eth_dev_configure(), which set up several things at a
> time, is a very bad idea from API perspective.
>
> In the VLAN example, we should have only one function to set this offload.
> And the PMD should advertise the capability of configuring VLAN on the fly.
> This function should return an error if called on the fly (started state) and
> PMD does not support it.
>
>
> > > > Consider scenario when PF has a corresponding VFs (PF is
> > > > controlled by
> > > > DPDK) Right now (at least with Intel HW) it is possible to:
> > > >
> > > > struct rte_eth_conf dev_conf;
> > > > dev_conf. rxmode.hw_vlan_filter = 1; ...
> > > > rte_eth_dev_configure(pf_port_id, 0, 0, &dev_conf);
> > > > rte_eth_dev_start(pf_port_id);
> > > >
> > > > In that scenario I don't have any RX/TX queues configured.
> > > > Though I still able to enable vlan filter, and it would work correctly for
> VFs.
> > > > Same for other per-port offloads.
> > >
> > > For the PF - enabling vlan filtering without any queues means
> > > nothing. The PF can receive no traffic, what different does it makes the
> vlan filtering is set?
> > > For the VF - I assume it will have queues, therefore for it vlan
> > > filtering has a meaning. However as I said above, the VF has the vlan filter
> because in intel this is per-device offload, so this is not a good example.
> >
> > Yes it is a per-device offload, and right now it is possible to
> > enable/disable it via dev_confgiure(); dev_start(); without
> > configuring/starting any RX/TX queues.
> > That's an ability I'd like to preserve.
> > So from my perspective it is a perfectly valid example.
>
> It is configuring VFs by setting the PF.
> Where is it documented?
> It looks to me as a device-specific side effect.
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Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-04 7:12 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] ethdev: rename Rx and Tx configuration structs Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 12:06 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 12:45 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 12:13 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 13:25 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 13:53 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-04 14:18 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-05 7:48 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05 8:09 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-05 10:51 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-05 13:50 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05 15:31 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-06 6:01 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-06 9:33 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-13 9:27 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 11:16 ` Shahaf Shuler [this message]
2017-09-13 12:41 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 12:56 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-13 13:20 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 21:42 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-14 8:02 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 10:31 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 10:57 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-18 11:04 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 11:27 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 11:04 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 11:11 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-18 11:32 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 11:37 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 14:27 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 14:42 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 14:44 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 18:18 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 21:08 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-19 7:33 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-19 7:56 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 12:56 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 14:02 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 15:55 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-10 12:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 12:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 12:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 17:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-09-11 5:52 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11 6:21 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11 7:56 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11 8:06 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11 8:46 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11 9:05 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11 11:02 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-12 4:01 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12 5:25 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12 5:51 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12 6:35 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12 6:46 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12 7:17 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12 8:03 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12 10:27 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12 14:26 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-12 14:36 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12 14:43 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12 6:43 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12 6:59 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11 8:03 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-11 12:27 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11 13:10 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 6:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 6:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 8:13 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:49 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 8:49 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 9:13 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:33 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 12:34 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 6:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 8:40 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:51 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev new " Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-17 6:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-17 6:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-17 6:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 7:50 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-17 6:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] doc: add details on ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 7:51 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-18 13:40 ` Mcnamara, John
2017-09-18 7:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] ethdev new " Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-28 18:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-28 18:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 0:32 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-03 6:25 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 19:46 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-09-28 18:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 19:50 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-04 8:06 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-28 18:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] doc: add details on ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 8:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 8:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 8:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 8:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] ethdev: add mbuf fast free Tx offload Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 8:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] doc: add details on ethdev offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 13:46 ` Mcnamara, John
2018-03-15 1:58 ` Patil, Harish
2018-03-15 6:05 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-16 15:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] doc: update new ethdev offload API description Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-17 0:16 ` Patil, Harish
2018-03-18 5:52 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 9:47 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 10:54 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 11:08 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:10 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 11:19 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:23 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 11:37 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:40 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 12:52 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 13:06 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 13:11 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 12:03 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 12:29 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 12:34 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 12:37 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 14:08 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 14:28 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 14:40 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 15:26 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-21 15:29 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 15:44 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-05-08 12:33 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-04 16:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev new offloads API Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-05 0:55 ` Ferruh Yigit
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