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Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:36:55 +0000 From: Dekel Peled To: Adrien Mazarguil , Ori Kam , Andrew Rybchenko CC: "wenzhuo.lu@intel.com" , "jingjing.wu@intel.com" , "bernard.iremonger@intel.com" , Yongseok Koh , Shahaf Shuler , "dev@dpdk.org" Thread-Topic: [PATCH v2 1/3] ethdev: add actions to modify TCP header fields Thread-Index: AQHU6WbqvvsJSYxgskWKjtJdhwgGX6YqKH0AgAAVcrCAACaTgIABUsYAgABJyACABkPfoA== Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:36:55 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1553177917-43297-1-git-send-email-dekelp@mellanox.com> <1554218001-62012-2-git-send-email-dekelp@mellanox.com> <20190403091432.GP4889@6wind.com> <20190403124921.GR4889@6wind.com> <20190404132556.GS4889@6wind.com> In-Reply-To: <20190404132556.GS4889@6wind.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=dekelp@mellanox.com; x-originating-ip: [193.47.165.251] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 60b791fa-bdae-43c4-e86d-08d6bc274496 x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; 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wenzhuo.lu@intel.com; > jingjing.wu@intel.com; bernard.iremonger@intel.com; Yongseok Koh > ; Shahaf Shuler ; > dev@dpdk.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] ethdev: add actions to modify TCP header fiel= ds >=20 > Hi Ori, >=20 > (trimming message down a bit) >=20 > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 09:01:52AM +0000, Ori Kam wrote: > > Hi Adrien, > > > > PSB > > > > > > From: Adrien Mazarguil > > > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 10:49:09AM +0000, Dekel Peled wrote: > > > > Thanks, PSB. > > > > > > From: Adrien Mazarguil > > > > > > I still don't agree with the wording as it implies one must > > > > > combine this > > > action > > > > > with the TCP pattern item or else, while one should simply > > > > > ensure the presence of TCP traffic somehow. This may be done by a > prior filtering rule. > > > > > > > > > > So here's a generic suggestion which could be used with pretty > > > > > much all modifying actions (other actions have the same problem > > > > > and will have to be fixed as well eventually): > > > > > > > > > > Using this action on non-matching traffic results in undefined > behavior. > > > > > > > > > > This comment applies to all instances in this patch. > > > > > > > > I accept your suggestion, indeed the existing actions have the > > > > problematic > > > condition. > > > > However I would like to currently leave this patch as-is for consis= tency. > > > > I will send a fix patch for next release, applying the updated > > > > text to all > > > modify-header actions. > > > > > > Please do it now as it's much more difficult to change an existing > > > API later (think deprecation notices and endless discussions); even > > > seemingly minor documentation issues like this one may affect > applications. > > > > > I agree that changing API is not easy. This is why I think we should > > keep Dekel patch, there is a number of API and consistency is very > > important. Also the PMD is based on the current description that such > command should fail. > > > > So lets keep it this way if you want to change all API then and only th= en this > API should be changed. >=20 > Wait, I'm not asking Delek to modify existing code/APIs right now, only t= o It's Dekel, not Delek (nor any other permutation of these letters). > document these new actions properly from the start so we don't have to do > it later (you even acknowledged it's more difficult that way). >=20 > So I fail to understand why it's so important for their documentation to = be > consistent with unrelated and badly documented actions? >=20 > Note the change I'm asking for at the API level doesn't affect PMD code, > which remains free to put extra limitations (namely the presence of TCP > pattern items). It's just that these limitations have nothing to do in th= e API > itself. Accepted, I will change the documentation as you suggested, with note that = the resulting undefined behavior is per PMD implementation. Regarding Andrew's suggestion: "Shouldn't these action be RTE_FLOW_ACTION_T= YPE_MOD_TCP_{ACK,SEQ} with singed 32-bit integer parameter (negative to dec= rement, positive to increment)?" I will leave the actions as is, the action names indicate the operation the= y perform.=20 >=20 > > > > > It's either 2 actions with 1 parameters, or 1 action with 2 paramet= ers. > > > > The current implementation is more straight-forward in my opinion. > > > > > > I generally also prefer the one action per thing to do approach, but > > > seeing the kind of actions you're adding, I fear we'll soon end up > > > with lots of similar rte_flow_action_* structures modifying a single > > > 32-bit value in some way. > > > > > > So for the same reasons as above, I think it's the right time to > > > define a shared structure to rule them all, or maybe even let users > > > provide a rte_be32_t/uint32_t/whatever pointer directly as a conf > > > pointer (not as straightforward to document though). > > > > > > An object to rule them all would look something like that: > > > > > > union rte_flow_integer { > > > rte_be64_t be64; > > > rte_le64_t le64; > > > uint64_t u64; > > > int64_t i64; > > > rte_be32_t be32; > > > rte_le32_t le32; > > > uint32_t u32; > > > int32_t i32; > > > uint8_t u8; > > > int8_t i8; > > > }; > > > > > > Then actions that need a single integer value only have to document > > > which field is relevant to them. How about that? > > > > > > > Like my previous comment. I understand your idea, but it has no huge > > advantage compared to the suggested one by Dekel which also match all > other API. > > > > Currently for each action we have a direct command, which is easy to > understand by using your idea we break this concept. >=20 > Yes, although not all actions have a configuration structure. Those that = do > indeed have a rte_flow_action_* counterpart, but it doesn't have to be > unique, see RTE_FLOW_ITEM_GTP/GTPC/GTPU for instance. >=20 > Likewise this patch adds struct rte_flow_action_modify_tcp_seq shared by > RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_INC_TCP_SEQ and > RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_DEC_TCP_SEQ although they lack a common > prefix (inc_tcp/dec_tcp vs. modify_tcp). The type to use is covered by > documentation and that's fine. >=20 > So why not go a little further and share the exact same structure with > RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_INC_TCP_ACK and > RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_DEC_TCP_ACK? >=20 Accepted, I will add union as you suggested (plus 16 bit values as Andrew n= oted) and use it for all the new actions. > And while there, why not plan for subsequent actions that take a single > integer value of some kind, because modifying existing APIs once upstream > is complicated... See where I'm going? >=20 > > There is no issue with having a large number of actions, it is even > > easer to read and document if each action is dedicated, as you can also= see > from OVS. >=20 > I'm actually fine with a large number of actions (rte_flow can support 2^= 31 > unique actions). Not so much with a large number of identical configurati= on > structures that only differ by name associated with them. This is what I'= d like > to avoid before it's too late. >=20 > > So I vote to keep Dekel patch as is. >=20 > I don't, I guess another vote is needed to decide :) >=20 > -- > Adrien Mazarguil > 6WIND From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from dpdk.org (dpdk.org [92.243.14.124]) by dpdk.space (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3FEA0096 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 15:36:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [92.243.14.124] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EC64CC7; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 15:36:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUR04-VI1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr80045.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.8.45]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641204CA6 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 15:36:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=Mellanox.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=+8r6YXZeczAFlkAz7E1nWWAgkfKFV8Aruc/a+n2Akns=; b=JFpRXWA/TP5w5UHrQZVDa1uJN3YbrxAWaO7rDT2CSsp3UJZqMtzk4k8UWsjNicNd6E/MPI3LrbiYboS28Fr+/imf+jTLeKWNBK2JWflCBHyBnKLrga4fKboLWWfJfxL+6ooUmz/MXnwLEX21x3AnkoIQE8oN9P0JGYaNmE8TlwU= Received: from VI1PR05MB4224.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com (52.133.12.13) by VI1PR05MB6319.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com (20.179.25.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.1771.16; 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wenzhuo.lu@intel.com; > jingjing.wu@intel.com; bernard.iremonger@intel.com; Yongseok Koh > ; Shahaf Shuler ; > dev@dpdk.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] ethdev: add actions to modify TCP header fiel= ds >=20 > Hi Ori, >=20 > (trimming message down a bit) >=20 > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 09:01:52AM +0000, Ori Kam wrote: > > Hi Adrien, > > > > PSB > > > > > > From: Adrien Mazarguil > > > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 10:49:09AM +0000, Dekel Peled wrote: > > > > Thanks, PSB. > > > > > > From: Adrien Mazarguil > > > > > > I still don't agree with the wording as it implies one must > > > > > combine this > > > action > > > > > with the TCP pattern item or else, while one should simply > > > > > ensure the presence of TCP traffic somehow. This may be done by a > prior filtering rule. > > > > > > > > > > So here's a generic suggestion which could be used with pretty > > > > > much all modifying actions (other actions have the same problem > > > > > and will have to be fixed as well eventually): > > > > > > > > > > Using this action on non-matching traffic results in undefined > behavior. > > > > > > > > > > This comment applies to all instances in this patch. > > > > > > > > I accept your suggestion, indeed the existing actions have the > > > > problematic > > > condition. > > > > However I would like to currently leave this patch as-is for consis= tency. > > > > I will send a fix patch for next release, applying the updated > > > > text to all > > > modify-header actions. > > > > > > Please do it now as it's much more difficult to change an existing > > > API later (think deprecation notices and endless discussions); even > > > seemingly minor documentation issues like this one may affect > applications. > > > > > I agree that changing API is not easy. This is why I think we should > > keep Dekel patch, there is a number of API and consistency is very > > important. Also the PMD is based on the current description that such > command should fail. > > > > So lets keep it this way if you want to change all API then and only th= en this > API should be changed. >=20 > Wait, I'm not asking Delek to modify existing code/APIs right now, only t= o It's Dekel, not Delek (nor any other permutation of these letters). > document these new actions properly from the start so we don't have to do > it later (you even acknowledged it's more difficult that way). >=20 > So I fail to understand why it's so important for their documentation to = be > consistent with unrelated and badly documented actions? >=20 > Note the change I'm asking for at the API level doesn't affect PMD code, > which remains free to put extra limitations (namely the presence of TCP > pattern items). It's just that these limitations have nothing to do in th= e API > itself. Accepted, I will change the documentation as you suggested, with note that = the resulting undefined behavior is per PMD implementation. Regarding Andrew's suggestion: "Shouldn't these action be RTE_FLOW_ACTION_T= YPE_MOD_TCP_{ACK,SEQ} with singed 32-bit integer parameter (negative to dec= rement, positive to increment)?" I will leave the actions as is, the action names indicate the operation the= y perform.=20 >=20 > > > > > It's either 2 actions with 1 parameters, or 1 action with 2 paramet= ers. > > > > The current implementation is more straight-forward in my opinion. > > > > > > I generally also prefer the one action per thing to do approach, but > > > seeing the kind of actions you're adding, I fear we'll soon end up > > > with lots of similar rte_flow_action_* structures modifying a single > > > 32-bit value in some way. > > > > > > So for the same reasons as above, I think it's the right time to > > > define a shared structure to rule them all, or maybe even let users > > > provide a rte_be32_t/uint32_t/whatever pointer directly as a conf > > > pointer (not as straightforward to document though). > > > > > > An object to rule them all would look something like that: > > > > > > union rte_flow_integer { > > > rte_be64_t be64; > > > rte_le64_t le64; > > > uint64_t u64; > > > int64_t i64; > > > rte_be32_t be32; > > > rte_le32_t le32; > > > uint32_t u32; > > > int32_t i32; > > > uint8_t u8; > > > int8_t i8; > > > }; > > > > > > Then actions that need a single integer value only have to document > > > which field is relevant to them. How about that? > > > > > > > Like my previous comment. I understand your idea, but it has no huge > > advantage compared to the suggested one by Dekel which also match all > other API. > > > > Currently for each action we have a direct command, which is easy to > understand by using your idea we break this concept. >=20 > Yes, although not all actions have a configuration structure. Those that = do > indeed have a rte_flow_action_* counterpart, but it doesn't have to be > unique, see RTE_FLOW_ITEM_GTP/GTPC/GTPU for instance. >=20 > Likewise this patch adds struct rte_flow_action_modify_tcp_seq shared by > RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_INC_TCP_SEQ and > RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_DEC_TCP_SEQ although they lack a common > prefix (inc_tcp/dec_tcp vs. modify_tcp). The type to use is covered by > documentation and that's fine. >=20 > So why not go a little further and share the exact same structure with > RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_INC_TCP_ACK and > RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_DEC_TCP_ACK? >=20 Accepted, I will add union as you suggested (plus 16 bit values as Andrew n= oted) and use it for all the new actions. > And while there, why not plan for subsequent actions that take a single > integer value of some kind, because modifying existing APIs once upstream > is complicated... See where I'm going? >=20 > > There is no issue with having a large number of actions, it is even > > easer to read and document if each action is dedicated, as you can also= see > from OVS. >=20 > I'm actually fine with a large number of actions (rte_flow can support 2^= 31 > unique actions). Not so much with a large number of identical configurati= on > structures that only differ by name associated with them. This is what I'= d like > to avoid before it's too late. >=20 > > So I vote to keep Dekel patch as is. >=20 > I don't, I guess another vote is needed to decide :) >=20 > -- > Adrien Mazarguil > 6WIND