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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: RFC abstracting atomics
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 09:16:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y70tALGqxUHqYBup@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230109225604.GA25566@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net>

On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 02:56:04PM -0800, Tyler Retzlaff wrote:
> hi folks,
> 
> i would like to introduce a layer of abstraction that would allow
> optional use of standard C11 atomics when the platform / toolchain
> combination has them available.
> 
> making the option usable would be a phased approach intended to focus
> review and minimize dealing with churn on such a broad change.
> 
> 1. provide an initial series to add the abstraction and the ability
>    control enablement with a meson option enable_stdatomics=false will
>    be the default.
> 
>    for all existing platform / toolchain combinations the default would
>    remain false. i.e. i have no plans to enable it for existing platforms
>    toolchain combinations but leaves a change of default open to the
>    community as a future discussion if it is desired.
> 
> 2. once the initial abstraction is integrated a series will be introduced to
>    port the tree to the abstraction with enable_stdatomics=false. the goal
>    being low or no change to the current use of gcc builtin C++11 memory
>    model atomics.
> 
> 3. once the tree is ported a final series will be introduced to introduce
>    the remaining change to allow the use of enable_stdatomics=true.
> 
> would appreciate any assistance / suggestions you can provide to
> introduce the abstraction smoothly.
> 

Plan generally sounds ok. However, beyond point #3, would there then be
plans to remove the option and always use stdatomics in future?

To slightly expand the scope of the discussion - would it be worthwhile
putting these abstractions in a new library in DPDK other than EAL, to
start the process of splitting out some of the lower-level material from
that library?

/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-10  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-09 22:56 Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10  9:16 ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2023-01-10 11:45   ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-10 20:31     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-11  7:45       ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-10 20:10   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-11 10:10     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-11 10:23       ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-11 11:56         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-11 12:46           ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-11 14:18             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-11 15:07               ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-13 14:18                 ` Ben Magistro
2023-01-13 16:10                   ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-13 17:17                     ` Tyler Retzlaff

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