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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
	Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	<olivier.matz@6wind.com>, <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	<honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>, <kamalakshitha.aligeri@arm.com>,
	<dev@dpdk.org>, <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] mempool cache: add zero-copy get and put functions
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 14:30:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y86aISoG0ku+RmRc@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D876A9@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 01:23:50PM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > From: Konstantin Ananyev [mailto:konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com]
> > Sent: Monday, 23 January 2023 12.54
> > 
> > > > Few nits, see below.
> > > > Also I still think we do need a test case for _zc_get_ before
> > > > accepting it in the mainline.
> > >
> > > Poking at my bad conscience... :-)
> > >
> > > It's on my todo-list. Apparently not high enough. ;-)
> > >
> > > > With that in place:
> > > > Acked-by: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>
> > > >
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * @warning
> > > > > + * @b EXPERIMENTAL: This API may change, or be removed, without
> > > > prior notice.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Zero-copy put objects in a user-owned mempool cache backed by
> > the
> > > > specified mempool.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * @param cache
> > > > > + *   A pointer to the mempool cache.
> > > > > + * @param mp
> > > > > + *   A pointer to the mempool.
> > > > > + * @param n
> > > > > + *   The number of objects to be put in the mempool cache.
> > > > > + * @return
> > > > > + *   The pointer to where to put the objects in the mempool
> > cache.
> > > > > + *   NULL if the request itself is too big for the cache, i.e.
> > > > > + *   exceeds the cache flush threshold.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +__rte_experimental
> > > > > +static __rte_always_inline void **
> > > > > +rte_mempool_cache_zc_put_bulk(struct rte_mempool_cache *cache,
> > > > > +		struct rte_mempool *mp,
> > > > > +		unsigned int n)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	RTE_ASSERT(cache != NULL);
> > > > > +	RTE_ASSERT(mp != NULL);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	rte_mempool_trace_cache_zc_put_bulk(cache, mp, n);
> > > > > +	return __rte_mempool_cache_zc_put_bulk(cache, mp, n);
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * @warning
> > > > > + * @b EXPERIMENTAL: This API may change, or be removed, without
> > > > prior notice.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Zero-copy un-put objects in a user-owned mempool cache.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * @param cache
> > > > > + *   A pointer to the mempool cache.
> > > > > + * @param n
> > > > > + *   The number of objects not put in the mempool cache after
> > > > calling
> > > > > + *   rte_mempool_cache_zc_put_bulk().
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +__rte_experimental
> > > > > +static __rte_always_inline void
> > > > > +rte_mempool_cache_zc_put_rewind(struct rte_mempool_cache *cache,
> > > > > +		unsigned int n)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	RTE_ASSERT(cache != NULL);
> > > > > +	RTE_ASSERT(n <= cache->len);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	rte_mempool_trace_cache_zc_put_rewind(cache, n);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	cache->len -= n;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	RTE_MEMPOOL_CACHE_STAT_ADD(cache, put_objs, (int)-n);
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * @warning
> > > > > + * @b EXPERIMENTAL: This API may change, or be removed, without
> > > > prior notice.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Zero-copy get objects from a user-owned mempool cache backed
> > by
> > > > the specified mempool.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * @param cache
> > > > > + *   A pointer to the mempool cache.
> > > > > + * @param mp
> > > > > + *   A pointer to the mempool.
> > > > > + * @param n
> > > > > + *   The number of objects to prefetch into the mempool cache.
> > > >
> > > > Why not 'get' instead of 'prefetch'?
> > >
> > > This was my thinking:
> > >
> > > The function "prefetches" the objects into the cache. It is the
> > application itself that "gets" the objects from the cache after having
> > > called the function.
> > > You might also notice that the n parameter for the zc_put() function
> > is described as "to be put" (future), not "to put" (now) in the
> > > cache.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I chose "Zero-copy get" for the function headline
> > to keep it simple.
> > >
> > > If you think "get" is a more correct description of the n parameter,
> > I can change it.
> > >
> > > Alternatively, I can use the same style as zc_put(), i.e. "to be
> > gotten from the mempool cache" - but that would require input from a
> > > natively English speaking person, because Danish and English grammar
> > is very different, and I am highly uncertain about my English
> > > grammar here! I originally considered this phrase, but concluded that
> > the "prefetch" description was easier to understand - especially
> > > for non-native English readers.
> > 
> > For me 'prefetch' seems a bit unclear in that situation...
> > Probably: "number of objects that user plans to extract from the
> > cache"?
> > But again, I am not native English speaker too, so might be someone can
> > suggest a better option.
> > 
> 
> @Bruce (or any other native English speaking person), your input would be appreciated here!
> 
I was happily ignoring this thread until you went and dragged me in with a
hard question. :-)

I think the longer explanation the clearer it is likely to be. How about
"number of objects to be made available for extraction from the cache"? I
don't like the reference to "the user" in the longer suggestion above, but
otherwise consider it clearer that talking of prefetching or "getting".

My 2c.

/Bruce

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-23 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-05 13:19 [RFC]: mempool: zero-copy cache get bulk Morten Brørup
2022-11-07  9:19 ` Bruce Richardson
2022-11-07 14:32   ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-15 16:18 ` [PATCH] mempool cache: add zero-copy get and put functions Morten Brørup
2022-11-16 18:04 ` [PATCH v2] " Morten Brørup
2022-11-29 20:54   ` Kamalakshitha Aligeri
2022-11-30 10:21     ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-22 15:57   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-12-22 17:55     ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-23 16:58       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-12-24 12:17         ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-24 11:49 ` [PATCH v3] " Morten Brørup
2022-12-24 11:55 ` [PATCH v4] " Morten Brørup
2022-12-27  9:24   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-12-27 10:31     ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-27 15:17 ` [PATCH v5] " Morten Brørup
2023-01-22 20:34   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-01-22 21:17     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-23 11:53       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-01-23 12:23         ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-23 12:52           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-01-23 14:30           ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2023-01-24  1:53             ` Kamalakshitha Aligeri
2023-02-09 14:39 ` [PATCH v6] " Morten Brørup
2023-02-09 14:52 ` [PATCH v7] " Morten Brørup
2023-02-09 14:58 ` [PATCH v8] " Morten Brørup
2023-02-10  8:35   ` fengchengwen
2023-02-12 19:56   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-12 23:15     ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-13  4:29       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-13  9:30         ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-13  9:37         ` Olivier Matz
2023-02-13 10:25           ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-14 14:16             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-13 12:24 ` [PATCH v9] " Morten Brørup
2023-02-13 14:33   ` Kamalakshitha Aligeri

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