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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: "Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Harry van Haaren <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] raw/ioat: fix bus requiring virtual addressing when no devs
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 16:34:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJQMfTcvK8pyrRkh@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18d300a4-f8f2-06b9-894e-91cd899bf933@intel.com>

On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 04:27:03PM +0100, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
> On 06-May-21 4:09 PM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > If after a bus scan, there are no devices using a particular bus, then
> > that bus should not be taken into account when deciding whether DPDK
> > should be run in VA or PA addressing mode. This becomes an issue when
> > the DSA bus driver code is used on a system without an IOMMU. The PCI
> > bus correctly reports that it only works in PA mode, while the DSA bus -
> > also correctly - reports that it works only in VA mode. The difference
> > is that there will be no devices found in a scan for the DSA bus, since
> > the kernel driver can only present those to userspace in the presence of
> > an IOMMU.
> > 
> > While we could change DSA instance to always report that it does not
> > care about the addressing mode, this would imply that it could be used
> > with DPDK in PA mode which is not the case. Therefore, this patch
> > changes the driver to report DC (don't care) in the case where no
> > devices are present, and VA otherwise.
> > 
> > NOTE: this addressing mode use of VA-only applies only in the case of
> > using DSA through the idxd kernel driver. The use of DSA though vfio-pci
> > is unaffected and works as with other PCI devices.
> > 
> > Fixes: b7aaf417f936 ("raw/ioat: add bus driver for device scanning automatically")
> > 
> > Reported-by: Harry van Haaren <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > ---
> 
> This would be a good opportunity to start a discussion on a "proper" fix for
> this, because while this hack is acceptable being so close to release, IMO
> we need a more general solution. Maybe a bus API reporting number of scanned
> devices would be nice to have, as EAL will then be able to ignore the
> opinion of those buses who don't have any devices.
> 
> The "number of devices" is a bit of a fluid concept, as number of scanned
> devices may not be the same as number of *probed* devices, and there's also
> hotplug. However, i think that we can ignore all that, because we care about
> initialization only - any other issues can be addressed by forcing
> --iova-mode by the user, as we cannot really do anything about hotplug or
> devices that fail to probe.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
Perhaps rather than just "number of devices" we should have buses report
whether they are relevant or not. For example, there are a number of
SoC-specific bus drivers in DPDK, which are presumably only relevant on
particular SoCs. Similarly here for the DSA bus, the presence of the
devices is a useful proxy for relevance - especially since it doesn't
support hotplug - but if we had a way to report relevance/non-relevance DSA
could just report itself as not-relevant in case where there is no IOMMU
enabled on the system, or when the "idxd" kernel driver is not present, for
example, and then have EAL skip even asking about PA/VA support

/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-06 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-06 15:09 Bruce Richardson
2021-05-06 15:16 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2021-05-06 15:27   ` Van Haaren, Harry
2021-05-07 12:30     ` Walsh, Conor
2021-05-10 10:37       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-05-06 15:27 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2021-05-06 15:34   ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2021-05-10 10:18     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-05-10 11:20       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-05-10 12:02         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-05-10 10:13 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-05-10 10:22   ` Bruce Richardson

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