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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>,
	<thomas@monjalon.net>, <bluca@debian.org>, <tredaelli@redhat.com>,
	<i.maximets@ovn.org>, <james.r.harris@intel.com>,
	<mohammed@hawari.fr>, Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>,
	Michael Santana <maicolgabriel@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] build: select deprecated libraries
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:19:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJV/pLRl1ONDK84f@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D87A0A@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 01:15:00PM +0200, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 23 June 2023 13.04
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:35:29AM +0200, David Marchand wrote:
> > > Hello Bruce,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:43 AM Bruce Richardson
> > > <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 07:00:57PM +0200, David Marchand wrote:
> > > > > Rework deprecated libraries selection by introducing a new configuration
> > > > > option.
> > > > >
> > > > > This breaks existing configurations that were relying on disable_libs=''
> > > > > for enabling deprecated libraries.
> > > > > On the other hand, it will make enabling optional libraries more
> > > > > straightforward by taking the deprecated libraries out of the picture.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > This gives us a single on/off value for the deprecated libs. So if you
> > > > wants to build only a single deprecated lib, you need to turn on this
> > > > option and then use "disable_libs/enable_libs" option to then selectively
> > > > pick which of the deprecated libs you actually want. Is that the expected
> > > > behaviour? Just checking that we don't want this to be a list too.
> > >
> > > Yes, I wanted a single unified filtering stage.
> > >
> > > But I think your suggestion is easier to use.
> > 
> > Slightly easier for the simple case.
> > 
> > >
> > > - That would make it simpler for people who simply want to enable kni,
> > > as you mentionned before:
> > > $ meson setup plop -Denable_deprecated_libs=kni
> > >
> > > But I would make this list not overlap with the disable/enable_libs
> > > options evaluation.
> > > Otherwise, in the case of a enable_libs user, the user would have to
> > > set kni in both lists, which is not that great:
> > > $ meson setup plop -Denable_deprecated_libs=kni -Denable_libs=kni,vhost
> > >
> > > Instead, I would make it so the config is done as:
> > > $ meson setup plop -Denable_deprecated_libs=kni -Denable_libs=vhost
> > >
> > > Is this what you had in mind?
> > >
> > I'm not sure myself what I had in mind, just asking if it had been
> > considered as much as anything else.
> > 
> > Having them not-overlap would seem to be necessary to provide a meaningful
> > interface.
> > 
> > >
> > > - I don't have a usage for this, but if we go with separating
> > > deprecated and "normal" optional libs filtering, should I introduce a
> > > disable_deprecated_libs too?
> > >
> > 
> > That would give us *way* to many options. I think for the sake of simplicity
> > we probably are as well to just go with what you are proposing in this set.
> > Since we only have two deprecated libraries - and hopefully never many more -
> > the benefit of the list for that setting is probably minimal. I'm keen to
> > avoid too much complexity if we can manage it.
> 
> I strongly agree with Bruce about avoiding too many options. Here's an idea:
> 
> How about just having the disable/enable_libs options, and by default omit the deprecated libs.
> 
> Then, the deprecated libs can be enabled by using the enable_libs option.
> 

That was the original suggestion and implementation. The trouble is that
if you specify, for example, -Denable_libs=kni, you have just disabled
every other optional library in DPDK, since the enable_libs option switches
DPDK to "allowlist"-only mode.

> Do we have special treatment for deprecated drivers?
> 
Its the best solution we have come up with so far to work around the above
problem.

/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-23 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-10 16:48 [PATCH 0/5] Extend optional libraries list David Marchand
2021-11-10 16:48 ` [PATCH 1/5] ci: test build with minimum configuration David Marchand
2021-11-16 17:06   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-11-16 20:39     ` David Marchand
2021-11-16 21:47       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-11-10 16:48 ` [PATCH 2/5] build: make GRO/GSO optional David Marchand
2021-11-16 17:11   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-11-10 16:48 ` [PATCH 3/5] build: make metrics libraries optional David Marchand
2021-11-16 17:12   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-11-10 16:48 ` [PATCH 4/5] build: make pdump optional David Marchand
2021-11-16 17:14   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-11-10 16:48 ` [PATCH 5/5] build: select optional libraries David Marchand
2021-11-10 17:34   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-11-16 17:25     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-11-17 10:47       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-11-17 11:27         ` David Marchand
2022-01-07 16:13           ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-07 16:47             ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-11-10 17:34 ` [PATCH 0/5] Extend optional libraries list Bruce Richardson
2021-11-17 11:28 ` [PATCH v2 " David Marchand
2021-11-17 11:28   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] ci: test minimum configuration David Marchand
2021-11-17 11:50     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-11-17 13:38     ` Aaron Conole
2021-11-17 11:28   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] build: make GRO/GSO optional David Marchand
2021-11-17 11:28   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] build: make metrics libraries optional David Marchand
2021-11-17 11:28   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] build: make pdump optional David Marchand
2021-11-17 11:28   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] build: select optional libraries David Marchand
2023-06-16  7:14     ` [PATCH v3] " David Marchand
2023-06-16  9:42       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-19  8:00         ` David Marchand
2023-06-19 14:11       ` David Marchand
2023-06-19 14:26         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-20  8:31           ` David Marchand
2023-06-20  8:35             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-20  8:38               ` David Marchand
2023-06-20  8:44                 ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-20  8:48                   ` David Marchand
2023-06-20  9:03                     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-20 14:33                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-06-20 14:40                         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-20 15:01                         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-21  9:54                           ` David Marchand
2023-06-21 10:49                             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-21 11:35                               ` Morten Brørup
2023-06-22  9:27                             ` Juraj Linkeš
2023-06-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Select " David Marchand
2023-06-21 17:00       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] kni: move IOVA build check David Marchand
2023-06-22  8:37         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-21 17:00       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] build: rename enabled libraries list David Marchand
2023-06-22  8:38         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-21 17:00       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] build: select deprecated libraries David Marchand
2023-06-22  8:43         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-22  8:50           ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-23  9:35           ` David Marchand
2023-06-23 11:04             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-23 11:15               ` Morten Brørup
2023-06-23 11:19                 ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2023-06-23 11:32                   ` Morten Brørup
2023-06-28 12:10                     ` David Marchand
2023-06-21 17:00       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] build: select optional libraries David Marchand
2023-06-22  8:49         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-06-22  9:09       ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Select " Bruce Richardson
2023-06-22 16:41         ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-06-28 13:20     ` [PATCH v5 0/2] " David Marchand
2023-06-28 13:20       ` [PATCH v5 1/2] build: select deprecated libraries David Marchand
2023-06-29 12:44         ` Aaron Conole
2023-06-28 13:20       ` [PATCH v5 2/2] build: select optional libraries David Marchand
2023-06-28 14:48       ` [PATCH v5 0/2] Select " Morten Brørup
2023-07-17 12:54         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-11-17 11:52   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Extend optional libraries list Thomas Monjalon

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