From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Return-Path: <dev-bounces@dpdk.org>
Received: from mails.dpdk.org (mails.dpdk.org [217.70.189.124])
	by inbox.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D630F43007;
	Tue,  8 Aug 2023 10:30:05 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mails.dpdk.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E1A43247;
	Tue,  8 Aug 2023 10:30:05 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mgamail.intel.com (mgamail.intel.com [134.134.136.65])
 by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA1140A87
 for <dev@dpdk.org>; Tue,  8 Aug 2023 10:30:03 +0200 (CEST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple;
 d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel;
 t=1691483403; x=1723019403;
 h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:
 in-reply-to:mime-version;
 bh=K++gCVeNdCEQ+76D7HPMcqpJlOJylbAQ0lB/veLpPFI=;
 b=U5DX3cSRt5p5mZlgxjvapjVVZbUu/vFs5Hp7kTZeyYAc+cik4NLZrRwq
 jqm4hsNADIKuiTAYuBvHoeKCpdqnZvlA+IH9twVsPgr3F3qb4r775k04u
 b1/7FzOccqM8SMD22v0AjdVbKZhpIQJMcELuJaD1lxMqDF+TDcZEqdbUs
 ljRTQsLbBzsgLbJa769Z9F9MpQ/YKrXciCLf7sRk4/jvdKnI103kofTDM
 3K1WCgIfWvPqx2jCQ4GPzIlKKZoWV4LKZiMT67yNFCIVrwh5XWqQAaVl9
 W44tE9/ePzwuP1ynYlopHaOG0VVdDk0iqW6BX7UhicdYzHm4fQyEjzhYA g==;
X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6600,9927,10795"; a="374434295"
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.01,263,1684825200"; d="scan'208";a="374434295"
Received: from orsmga008.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.65])
 by orsmga103.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384;
 08 Aug 2023 01:30:01 -0700
X-ExtLoop1: 1
X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6600,9927,10795"; a="760819800"
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.01,263,1684825200"; d="scan'208";a="760819800"
Received: from fmsmsx603.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.18.126.83])
 by orsmga008.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 08 Aug 2023 01:29:48 -0700
Received: from fmsmsx612.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.126.92) by
 fmsmsx603.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.126.83) with Microsoft SMTP Server
 (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id
 15.1.2507.27; Tue, 8 Aug 2023 01:29:38 -0700
Received: from fmsedg601.ED.cps.intel.com (10.1.192.135) by
 fmsmsx612.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.126.92) with Microsoft SMTP Server
 (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id
 15.1.2507.27 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 8 Aug 2023 01:29:38 -0700
Received: from NAM11-CO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (104.47.56.169)
 by edgegateway.intel.com (192.55.55.70) with Microsoft SMTP Server
 (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id
 15.1.2507.27; Tue, 8 Aug 2023 01:29:38 -0700
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none;
 b=Id+7ESaHp+TFDcRZkfJrtAu3N1sAWfKDg496NztBixJIbW42udq92SHlqwFNSBiSA+yKHIFMABt7dxpj12w2erhxgXJIYX1T3KQWgbNfRzWPzGigYDoLsQxJPiDQ2XX34WI0Wz7M7uZv5T39KkBUtrrgBzzOiytTOeop3/rwYm8p08w4pygDWidpZKfT5ZGZObHlefv0ekVPzDXVP6wZSF3HKyEEb8BaCB8h/xnuOHdZIsmmheaQMQBslUnvp8Uc8jniJ1Ycw43GmC8V11dEE5x1PPBfMkHA53w/9FzlcrozWCySrmVXvJap4U1NZXO+zSZT8ZPd5adbqrpsGwLdoA==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; 
 s=arcselector9901;
 h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1;
 bh=ZpS+uAOOALLeNPHjP35wQIzwSS5jiVi7fkJzLZFkJO0=;
 b=Qqo+PQryYRwXZzmzmVnKrDB2B9tRTP4qj62vZ8a3LIPmOZ/keZPkGFyQuGJqmdnmv9aMSalURW59TtCAg3gXAxljLsUVkjEfk339SeMH7IC1CAV6VFYJatU1q4ek6fkC3Gq+KL7hH5o94tpzhzUCu4sKSce39E5MJKtbJYuIj4Xv0sjLpzebn44NbUNj2ZJh8V18c9e6VL2yr7LIbKCZ6bAmYMGri8sx+majQfWti5FbZk9eCiu2aV6Y3nAEHE7ftz3OoXV7GzagOtmJBIUFe2kNz/g0G9OSTPaI89++K8bzBnwKvJLiFSmMTg5+wnTEKwmXqQHYtrYgb0cjyTzXPQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass
 smtp.mailfrom=intel.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=intel.com;
 dkim=pass header.d=intel.com; arc=none
Authentication-Results: dkim=none (message not signed)
 header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=intel.com;
Received: from DS0PR11MB7309.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:8:13e::17)
 by PH0PR11MB4997.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:510:31::20) with
 Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2,
 cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6652.27; Tue, 8 Aug
 2023 08:29:36 +0000
Received: from DS0PR11MB7309.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
 ([fe80::9802:65f0:c441:780f]) by DS0PR11MB7309.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
 ([fe80::9802:65f0:c441:780f%7]) with mapi id 15.20.6652.026; Tue, 8 Aug 2023
 08:29:36 +0000
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 09:29:30 +0100
From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Philip Prindeville <philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com>
CC: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>, <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: Drivers, architectures, processor families, etc.
Message-ID: <ZNH86rGsmJoPK5Tm@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>
References: <45384262-9744-4975-B5FB-D5D26608DF5B@redfish-solutions.com>
 <20230802154759.0befb39c@hermes.local>
 <783A7C11-9B33-49B1-913D-1D9D5C6B6688@redfish-solutions.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <783A7C11-9B33-49B1-913D-1D9D5C6B6688@redfish-solutions.com>
X-ClientProxiedBy: DUZPR01CA0080.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com
 (2603:10a6:10:46a::9) To DS0PR11MB7309.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
 (2603:10b6:8:13e::17)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email
X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: DS0PR11MB7309:EE_|PH0PR11MB4997:EE_
X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: cadd8343-0635-421a-a7e1-08db97e9998f
X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-Relay: 0
X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;
X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: 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
X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:;
 IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:DS0PR11MB7309.namprd11.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE;
 SFS:(13230028)(376002)(39860400002)(396003)(366004)(346002)(136003)(1800799003)(186006)(90021799007)(451199021)(90011799007)(8936002)(316002)(8676002)(66946007)(44832011)(82960400001)(66556008)(6916009)(4326008)(5660300002)(2906002)(66476007)(478600001)(41300700001)(86362001)(6666004)(6486002)(6512007)(53546011)(38100700002)(26005)(6506007)(83380400001);
 DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; 
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: =?us-ascii?Q?FR5jNOnjcgdWVj10eAUdkK+5pASbDFohkn9FeO7r0r6rbW6Q6kbsBN5gegBP?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?0eDuhujZJyLxiu7UfajZaotRkggaM1Xws4r07oSWnjQJvd2s/H6yX+3SRkdo?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?sBGsuhVqE2D28F/aAPpfrVpcWzHQxUmYDkdMOJ8uq9zBeZeZyC2eHVS5o3yh?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?itcQBUpmvZb3Vz8E5bwYdwqu3ypcYSlM/avoJPRYKxFZAl2ulW+JSZPid1/G?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?wpL/QA96cCL6+5CNXLOyrsxKfAkRkqr7kzGZoU+kmgbxQv7IVYb8zgKydFUi?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?yNeHfoJQZ3n+cOnx9gS32S9XjGK0f+G1TaE+3gAzTA2klYtHYjWlTk9VsVRN?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?E13gmgymP3lTGL4IGivYiWFX0vX3ZnuEDsxKMsBagbV7uLtjkmGnEof2POAt?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?yZsZv+g+q6Er8LpipihS7tU6B30KymcLvJZni+GbzLWZUz7biHI94soKoqDq?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?IlqpZpTCI9xWlVbzcHfJaEGPNtiSS6kHZ85QNZpGyWeAC1jB5aD7g/SMOGfv?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?nRXz629FjfOyId6iqV9cJJXnFmCBkvLByraRh8wOr/srb1Hg58QHsCmNws6O?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?tJWZunISAOmi52QinVbLkalkyrkwNBittrHyHyDVbwB5l5voyzN7ijc+wwI4?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?hq0sJVeLX6EpQgh8ZlryAijlY+EaqpdevV+HgsiQ0Q4/Me3eqFdwv0dDeqqA?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?spZaoeR1n/UlbuP3yvJqAT30nGHen0nCApstAuzMq8B2y4oiFsqJpAvBC6mN?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?I+nsK2wJVKxe2OB67fj8UK/+qnZ/jcRisdm1n+lRYJNRNH+jqx3OFOw9MkFW?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?9cmisWR5mqafkqzLcXGTKnnoRUysfkkuvfTPEvB1gRuM9hP0yOueSy2t0F7O?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?FrEUrwq9QG8BTr7qgzoYtLhAEmRwJRCBlkGPjyaZeztCXKuNaKQu9788P2+9?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?jNuMTXSVC9WrwqvQECpfcudVEEr0S+0DjRGmA69z73nNJoHT9OZB4fCkiU7i?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?JByIfmw+goGXKeI/pbJ9yduUVGglo9qzL7xuGhp8RrYchucmGK3RvXi2G9Aj?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?fuyX71DicJ3Yy8kcVLj/xIl31u5KjoW5/FVvLHCYqmAwixylKk4ief0EJzbV?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?XNfAiVvMufIoTUSuV3DeWfvyQx269jGM4n735AvJjSn8TKOdjlRpLNLHkJQ4?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?QZdVqNgavbr5tXOYO5IKEGXPQ/dV9ZhVZlVlJwVwGXBEqVE43s+2u/NGZaSe?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?PZheG6o+OicTjXGQ5L0Yx5aXhrIbfc32bok2GLSScDIB0omr8QBss645hAQf?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?G2mulr/E/74Jw+LE5W9DV782gOTiEFQPZy5cFS0N9vf2PZNjmQVdgQf0EVPU?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?5yLHRwshk3RxdVAOHJ4kdZqDoCtnhjXlo8Dvvyjuz5zlVKh6p20Tc+eHiqkI?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?7ltgatxyesmApwSsXzwhVSvgaLzr3Zcsa9BLY4ntU1XVUHrHdYasGnnFEodU?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?GhPME8r9f15KYMLm04zuwHJTTX+Y4qwK29M8K3IiIv4cWnX5ynHWNbhnqot5?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?trThdaYyB1Zoa8amHRkW2ZEtHPeSD9R5xrnQHway3EKFH6hrCUmY0YZgWqaA?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?xw=3D=3D?=
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: cadd8343-0635-421a-a7e1-08db97e9998f
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: DS0PR11MB7309.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2023 08:29:36.4601 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 46c98d88-e344-4ed4-8496-4ed7712e255d
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: LKR9Um2vxKZcn816UMCkBxUhaqROuOFR49nQk5XIYyQrUlwvhh9RfAoYaYaaCv3qomIYnCTpMdu4c2qexnsMPwiCIo0q7khWbsejzyItm3o=
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PH0PR11MB4997
X-OriginatorOrg: intel.com
X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions <dev.dpdk.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/options/dev>,
 <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/>
List-Post: <mailto:dev@dpdk.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/listinfo/dev>,
 <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org

On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 10:40:47AM -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Aug 2, 2023, at 4:47 PM, Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:49:54 -0600
> > Philip Prindeville <philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I'm trying to come up with some Kconfig logic for OpenWRT packaging to help users select the right build options for their hardware.
> >> 
> >> Most OpenWRT developers typically cross-compile, so we obviously can't rely on detection on the build host as that's rarely the same as the target machine.
> >> 
> >> Looking in the DPDK repo, I don't see any description of the available architectures, drivers, etc. and what I had seen previously was (if I remember) only for x86_64 hardware, and even that I can't seem to locate again.
> >> 
> >> Would it make sense to put some of these definitions into the repo itself, so that when new drivers are added, that stands out (at least in the commit logs) and we can capture the permutations of what driver goes with which SoC on what architecture, etc?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> -Philip
> >> 
> > 
> > DPDK now uses meson which by default builds everything available on the build architecture.
> > There is intentionally no way to disable drivers, you can disable some libraries though.
> 
> 
> 
> The issue I'm trying to resolve is that if you're building for SoC Xyzzy that includes an on-chip NIC, then that driver should *only* ever be selectable when building for that SoC.
> 
> There's no point if generating (or packaging) combinations of platform + driver that aren't viable.
>
Actually, for development purposes there is good reason. By having e.g. NIC
drivers for ARM SoCs be built when doing an x86 build, it allows us to
catch changes that break that driver. It also allows one to do a generic
build where the one build could be used across multiple platforms.

/Bruce