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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, "Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:59:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNYwxqQ9jDS+7Tf0@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJFAV8zc0=7ybpaZozPgA=WboXgMjTwT45vgtNs8Q59g-eAZpQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 02:46:13PM +0200, David Marchand wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 3:36 PM Bruce Richardson
> <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is a general desire to reduce the size and scope of EAL. To this
> > end, this patchset makes a (very) small step in that direction by taking
> > the logging functionality out of EAL and putting it into its own library
> > that can be built and maintained separately.
> >
> > As with the first RFC for this, the main obstacle is the "fnmatch"
> > function which is needed by both EAL and the new log function when
> > building on windows. While the function cannot stay in EAL - or we would
> > have a circular dependency, moving it to a new library or just putting
> > it in the log library have the disadvantages that it then "leaks" into
> > the public namespace without an rte_prefix, which could cause issues.
> > Since only a single function is involved, subsequent versions take a
> > different approach to v1, and just moves the offending function to be a
> > static function in a header file. This allows use by multiple libs
> > without conflicting names or making it public.
> >
> > The other complication, as explained in v1 RFC was that of multiple
> > implementations for different OS's. This is solved here in the same
> > way as v1, by including the OS in the name and having meson pick the
> > correct file for each build. Since only one file is involved, there
> > seemed little need for replicating EAL's separate subdirectories
> > per-OS.
> 
> Series applied, thanks Bruce for this first step.
> 
> As mentionned during the maintainers weekly call yesterday, this is
> only a first "easy" step but, thinking of next steps, more splitting
> may not be that easy.
> 

I took a look after doing this patchset to try and find more easy to
extract parts, but did not find many. The EAL is pretty intertwined now.
As I look at it, there are really two ways to try and dis-entangle it - 
bottoms-up or top-down. This patchset is an example of the former, taking a
logical set of related APIs and pulling them out into a separate library
that EAL can depend upon. There may be some other API-sets like this we can
pull out, but in my search I didn't find any.

The other tops-down approach may be worth looking at too. We can try and
take the top-level EAL init function and separate it out into a separate
initialization library (which may be called "EAL" with the rest being
called something else). I have not tried this approach to see how it goes,
but pulling out the init may allow further dis-entangling of other parts of
EAL.

/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-11 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-29 15:18 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Split logging " Bruce Richardson
2022-08-29 15:18 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] os: begin separating some OS compatibility from EAL Bruce Richardson
2022-08-29 18:57   ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-30  8:41     ` Bruce Richardson
2022-08-30  8:42   ` David Marchand
2022-08-30  9:59     ` Bruce Richardson
2022-08-29 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] log: separate logging functions out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2022-08-29 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] telemetry: use standard logging Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 16:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 16:19   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] eal/windows: move fnmatch function to header file Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 16:41     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-13 17:01       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 17:31         ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-13 17:37           ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 16:20   ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] log: separate logging functions out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 16:20   ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] telemetry: use standard logging Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 20:36   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] eal/windows: move fnmatch function to header file Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 20:36   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] log: separate logging functions out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-01-13 20:36   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] telemetry: use standard logging Bruce Richardson
2023-01-20 18:21 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-01-20 18:21   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] eal/windows: move fnmatch function to header file Bruce Richardson
2023-01-20 18:21   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] log: separate logging functions out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-01-20 18:21   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] telemetry: use standard logging Bruce Richardson
2023-01-22 14:56   ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL David Marchand
2023-01-23 14:24     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-23 14:31       ` David Marchand
2023-01-23 14:36         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-23 14:42           ` David Marchand
2023-05-18 12:49 ` [PATCH v5 " Bruce Richardson
2023-05-18 12:49   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] eal/windows: move fnmatch function to header file Bruce Richardson
2023-05-18 12:49   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] log: separate logging functions out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-05-18 12:49   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] telemetry: use standard logging Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] eal/windows: move fnmatch function to header file Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] log: separate logging functions out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] telemetry: use standard logging Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 15:38 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 15:39   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] eal/windows: move fnmatch function to header file Bruce Richardson
2023-08-09 11:18     ` David Marchand
2023-08-09 12:35       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 15:39   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] log: separate logging functions out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 16:22     ` David Marchand
2023-07-31 16:29       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-08-09 10:00         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-08-09 11:58     ` David Marchand
2023-08-09 12:24     ` David Marchand
2023-08-09 12:32       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-07-31 15:39   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] telemetry: use standard logging Bruce Richardson
2023-08-09 13:35 ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-08-09 13:35   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] eal/windows: move fnmatch function to header file Bruce Richardson
2023-08-09 13:35   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] log: separate logging functions out of EAL Bruce Richardson
2023-08-09 13:35   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] telemetry: use standard logging Bruce Richardson
2023-08-11 12:46   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Split logging functionality out of EAL David Marchand
2023-08-11 12:59     ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2023-09-01 11:25       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-09-01 12:26         ` Morten Brørup
2023-10-23  7:37     ` David Marchand

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